[buug] Re: Jackpot!
nick at netaxs.com
Mon Jul 10 12:07:43 PDT 2000
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Rick Moen wrote:
> The usual obstacle to that is that they refuse to pay anyone to install
> and configure their systems, or to administer them. They want
> installer routines to run themselves flawlessly, even on unbelievably
> crappy x86 hardware components (e.g., Lucent winmodems, controllerless
> printers). They want the default computing environment to be absolutely
> intuitive and meet all their needs _without_ custom configuration. They
> don't believe in system administration (if they've even heard the term).
> It can't be done. Even the best-tweaked desktop-oriented Unix, such as
> Linux-Mandrake or Corel Linux, is necessarily configured in a somewhat
> generic fashion. And x86 hardware will always hold pitfalls. And
> Unixes cannot be totally automated, even after being custom-configured.
But it can be done. If the people who manufacture these computers
configured the install themselves & then burned it onto a CD so it could
always be fixed then this would work. If you're going to buy a custom
built computer from mom & pop then obviously you're going to have to know
something, but there's no reason why computers can't be preset to be
relatively idiot resistant.
> _Absent_ that, what tends to happen is that all those people with
> totally unrealistic expectations, and an attitude problem that the
> less they pay for assistance, the less they should respect it, come
> pouring into Linux newsgroups and user-group mailing lists, demanding
> fixes to their problems but refusing to learn to be self-sufficient.
Yeah, this will probably never change. Recently clueless fucks have been
coming into plug and asking questions answered in man pages or by using a
--help argument. I don't so much mind answering these sorts of questions
in person at install fests & the like, but it really does get on my nerves
when as much time as possible is wasted by using text.
> I think this may become my test-bed for effort to create an "InstallFest
> server" -- a standard set of Web pages and other machine setup for
> InstallFests, with mirrors of the most commonly-needed information and
> browsable information on available software, expertise, etc., which we
> can stamp out on CD-ROMs or offer over the Net. A group would use this
> setup to set up a walk-up kiosk to introduce people to their InstallFest
> and direct them to resources they might not otherwise know exist.
Not a bad idea, an install fest HOWTO would be nice.
Nicolai Rosen, nick at netaxs.com
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