From jammer at weak.org Sat Jul 14 11:09:09 2001 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:09:09 -0700 Subject: [buug] The BUUG list archiver is broken In-Reply-To: <20010713231138.X4451@uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com>; from rick@linuxmafia.com on Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 11:11:38PM -0700 References: <20010713231138.X4451@uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20010714110909.F844@weak.org> On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 11:11:38PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > If you go to http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/ , no posts have been > archived since 2001-01-28, either in HTML or ASCII forms. Which is roughly the date I moved weak.org from the old NetBSD system to the new Linux system. Mailman stores the location of the list archives in each list's configuration file. Which is in Berkeley DB format. Don't even think you can get away with just editing the .db file and changing the list archive location. Nope. Not nearly that easy. After several minutes of searching, I found this little script in the mailman-users mailing list: --- #!/bin/sh newroot='/var/lib/mailman' for list in `ls $newroot/lists` do python -i $newroot/bin/withlist -l $list < (Hmm. I also somehow missed the change in meeting schedule from every > Thursday to 1st and 3rd Thursdays only. It might have been posted to > this list, but I can't check that in the archives. ;-> ) Heh. -Jon From feedle at feedle.net Mon Jul 16 10:32:29 2001 From: feedle at feedle.net (C. Sullivan) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:32:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [buug] Word resume submissions... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > CS-->Word format. For "UNIX" jobs. > > Hmm, I'd take that as a blessing as to help give you a preview as > to the environment you'll be administering to, in my humble > opinion anyway. That's one way to perpare you for what to expect. The problem is nowadays that the shortest distance between jobless and gainful employment is usually through a headhunter or similar third party. Rarely (at least, in the last couple of years) do companies even bother to list tech jobs on their company website or some such, and typically, they do that on a bi-monthly basis. Tech recruiters have never been known for their technical savvyness. I had one send me a Perl programmer with "six to ten years of experience"... in 1996. When I asked the candidate if he had chatted with Larry Wall lately, he said "Who's Larry Wall?" I've been sending resumes to recruiters in html format, and so far, it hasn't presented an issue. The one recruiter I gave a load of fluff about it (some six or so months ago) changed their announcement after I challenged them on it. YMMV. -Fedl From karshi.hasanov at utoronto.ca Mon Jul 16 11:32:33 2001 From: karshi.hasanov at utoronto.ca (karshi.hasanov at utoronto.ca) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [buug] kde2.1 Message-ID: Hi, I am having some problems with runnig KDE2.1 on FreeBSD. Sometime it freezes. I was going to swicth form Linux , but now I am affraid that FreeBSD is not stable enough to run applications like KDE. I never had problem like this on Debian/Linux. I am a new to FreeBSD, but have some knowledge of UNIX. Any suggestions would be very helpfull. Thanks. From mjh at aciri.org Mon Jul 16 11:48:46 2001 From: mjh at aciri.org (Mark Handley) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:48:46 -0700 Subject: [buug] kde2.1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:32:33 EDT." Message-ID: <66573.995309326@aardvark.aciri.org> > I am having some problems with runnig KDE2.1 on FreeBSD. Sometime it >freezes. I was going >to swicth form Linux , but now I am affraid that FreeBSD is not stable >enough to run applications >like KDE. I never had problem like this on Debian/Linux. We've been running KDE 2.0 on FreeBSD since it was first released (probably about 10 people here run it). I've seen no significant problems. I can't speak for KDE 2.1 though - I haven't summoned up the stamina to upgrade our machines yet, though I will do eventually. Did you build from source? I generally try to build from source where possible, so I know which configuration options are enabled. Which Qt/KDE this is a bit of a marathon though... Cheers, Mark From info at gooddoggygrafx.com Mon Jul 16 12:30:51 2001 From: info at gooddoggygrafx.com (Robert Roberts) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:30:51 -0700 Subject: [buug] re: kde Message-ID: <002701c10e2d$d3ce14a0$0200000a@firstworld.com> Hi: Is anyone running KDE on OpenBSD? thanks, Robert Roberts From mjh at aciri.org Mon Jul 16 13:15:16 2001 From: mjh at aciri.org (Mark Handley) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:15:16 -0700 Subject: [buug] kde2.1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:18:33 CDT." <3B534C19.EB01DF25@utoronto.ca> Message-ID: <67279.995314516@aardvark.aciri.org> >I bought the Version 4.3 couple of weeks ago, and it came with KDE2.1.1. > Maybe I should deinstall it and install KDE2.0? >Or may be it's bceause I upgaded XFree3.3.6 to XFree86/4.1.0 ? I don't That's possible - I'm still running 3.3.6 on pretty much everything. One way to find out if it's kde or X that's locking up is to have your .xinitrc file only run an xterm. Then manually start kde from the xterm. When the screen freezes, ssh into the machine from another machine and kill off kde. If everything comes back to life (and you can restart kde from the xterm), then its definitely kde that froze. If the display doesn't unfreeze, then the X server has frozen, and I'd suspect X as being the culprit. In any event, I'd be tempted to re-install X 3.3.6 if your hardware supports it - it's much less work to re-install X than to re-build Kde. Cheers, Mark From info at gooddoggygrafx.com Mon Jul 16 14:04:03 2001 From: info at gooddoggygrafx.com (Robert Roberts) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:04:03 -0700 Subject: [buug] re: kde and OpenBSD Message-ID: <000f01c10e3a$e2fe6760$0200000a@firstworld.com> Karshi: Thanks for the note about KDE2.1 I'm new to OpenBSD, but so far, I really like it. I got into all this because a few months ago I acquired a server-in-a-box (gallantry.com). It runs on FreeBSD 3.4 (!) I didn't know squat about Unix or BSD or anything. Well....one thing has led to another. First, it was updating Apache to include PHP and MySQL. Then, I decided that server-in-a-box is limited, so have set about learning what I can in order to eventually upgrade everything. I picked up an extra pc from craigslist.org, and it's perfect for experimenting. Right now, am trying to learn about IPFilter and firewalling, and more about ssh/ssl. Don't know if KDE is any real benefit because by now I'm so accustomed to just working from the command line. But the KDE website looked interesting. Did not want to do X-windows. I also read somewhere that X-windows introduces additional security hazards. What additional security risks are presented by KDE, if any? On another note: re: meetings I live in SF. If anyone drives from here to meetings, are you open to ride-sharing? Would certainly be willing to chip in for gas/bridge, etc. Thanks, Robert From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Jul 16 22:41:06 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:41:06 -0700 Subject: [buug] kde2.1 Message-ID: <20010716224106.A22595@uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com> begin karshi.hasanov at utoronto.ca quotation: > I am having some problems with running KDE2.1 on FreeBSD. Sometime it > freezes. I was going to switch from Linux , but now I am afraid that > FreeBSD is not stable enough to run applications like KDE. 1. FreeBSD is, as a general rule, extremely stable. 2. Before anyone will be able to help you, you'll have to be a great deal more specific than "It freezes". Among the problems with that is the fact that the meaning of the term "freezes" is unclear -- as is the term "it". Let's start over. You have a machine loaded with some FreeBSD system release, some selection of packages, and possibly some software from the ports collection. (Which FreeBSD branch, by the way?) You use some particular pieces of software (which?). Time passes. You do some things. The computer does some things -- which it would be good for you to describe, in chronological order. Eventually, something goes wrong: What exactly, by the way? You attempt to investigate, at that point. (What did you _do_ to investigate? Were you able to switch to a virtual console? An open xterm? Were you able to telnet or ssh in? If so, what did "top" and "ps" show? Were you able to kill offending processes? What technique did you attempt to use, to do so? If X11 as a whole seemed to be in trouble, did you try killing X11? What happened, if you did? Were you able to resume control of the system from the console? Were you able to restart X11, etc.?) You said "problems running KDE". But KDE is not a single program, but rather a collection of X11 clients, a CORBA broker, some libs, a characteristic window manager (kwm), and a gaggle of configuration files. So, do you mean that you had some sort of problem running some specific X11 client furnished in the KDE collection? Does that problem replicate if you run _just_ that client and not the thundering herd of others usually started up without your permission when you use kwm? Does it replicate if you use a different window manager other than kwm? Is it possible you're seeing hardware problems? Are you perhaps trying to run way too much software with way too little physical RAM? (What hardware, anyway? You didn't even say what chip architecture, how much RAM, etc.) As you can see, getting meaningful answers from on-line help resources requires that you do some system investigation, and write a coherent account of your investigation. Sorry about that: It's how the world works. -- Cheers, "I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate Rick Moen those who do. And, for the people who like country music, rick at linuxmafia.com denigrate means 'put down'." -- Bob Newhart From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Jul 17 09:37:57 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:37:57 -0700 Subject: [buug] re: kde and OpenBSD In-Reply-To: <000f01c10e3a$e2fe6760$0200000a@firstworld.com> Message-ID: <20010717093757.N31244@uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com> begin Robert Roberts quotation: > Did not want to do X-windows. Then, you probably don't want KDE. ;-> [1] > I also read somewhere that X-windows introduces additional security > hazards. What additional security risks are presented by KDE, if any? There's a CORBA object broker that theoretically constitutes another point of attack. But, generally speaking, KDE is not really a thing in itself, at all -- other than having a marketing campaign, a characteristic window manager (kwm), and a common graphical toolkit (Qt): It's really just a suite of X11 clients, any of which you can run without the others, as long as you meet library dependencies and such. [1] Strictly speaking, there's no such thing as "X-Windows". Its name is "X", "X11", or "the X Window System". -- Cheers, "I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate Rick Moen those who do. And, for the people who like country music, rick at linuxmafia.com denigrate means 'put down'." -- Bob Newhart From rgs05 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 17 09:42:40 2001 From: rgs05 at hotmail.com (Robert Smith) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 12:42:40 -0400 Subject: [buug] automating stuff Message-ID: I am relatively new to the *nix world. I am playing with RH7.1 to gain experience. My problem is an obtuse but not critical one. In an industrial Thin-wire Ethernet environment, I am running RH7.1 on a 300 MHz Pentium along with a Sun SPARCstation running OS 5.5.1 and OpenWindows 3.5.1. The RH7 box is going to be acting as a display for a process which is actually running on the SPARC. I have figured out how to automate the RH7 side. I added "startx" to the end of the /root/.bash_profile file. I tweaked the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file as follows: #!/bin/sh xterm -e xhost + exec wmaker When root logs in, X-windows starts and an x-terminal session fires up and executes xhost + which allows the display to be used by others. The x-terminal session closes before wmaker fires up. I chose wmaker because of its minimal interface. On the SPARCside, I have to issue the following commands within an x-terminal window: DISPLAY=172.16.64.104:0.0 export DISPLAY Any command I issue from within the SPARC x-terminal window will run on the SPARC but be displayed on the RH7 box; exactly what I'm looking for. So now the reason I'm writing this note: First of all, is that a valid solution to the problem? Is there a simpler way? Second, how can I automate what happens on the SPARC? I'm not that familiar with their GUI. It would appear that the RH7 box has to be up before the SPARC for this to work. After the two commands, I'd like to add the actual command for the program to begin. Third, is it possible to have the RH7 box fire up automatically -- no manual log in? I know that violates the Prime Directive. It's a nice-to-have not a need-to-have. Thanking you all in advance for your advice and expertise, I remain your humble and obedient servant, Robert G. Smith rgs05&hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From jtran at bms.calstate.edu Mon Jul 16 11:12:37 2001 From: jtran at bms.calstate.edu (Jennifer Tran) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:12:37 -0700 Subject: [buug] Re: Buug digest, Vol 1 #221 - 1 msg References: <200107151437.HAA06374@weak.org> Message-ID: <3B532E95.A03D6AF2@bms.calstate.edu> I am interested in all info regarding to ACL on Unix. Any documents or clues or cheat sheets would be greatly helpful and appreciated. Thanks in advance... Regards, Jennifer buug-admin at weak.org wrote: > Send Buug mailing list submissions to > buug at weak.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > buug-request at weak.org > You can reach the person managing the list at > buug-admin at weak.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Buug digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The BUUG list archiver is broken (Jon McClintock) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: Jon McClintock > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 11:09:09 -0700 > To: Rick Moen > Cc: buug at weak.org > Subject: Re: [buug] The BUUG list archiver is broken > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 11:11:38PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > If you go to http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/ , no posts have been > > archived since 2001-01-28, either in HTML or ASCII forms. > > Which is roughly the date I moved weak.org from the old NetBSD system to > the new Linux system. > > Mailman stores the location of the list archives in each list's configuration > file. Which is in Berkeley DB format. Don't even think you can get away > with just editing the .db file and changing the list archive location. > > Nope. Not nearly that easy. After several minutes of searching, I found this > little script in the mailman-users mailing list: > > --- > #!/bin/sh > > newroot='/var/lib/mailman' > > for list in `ls $newroot/lists` > do > python -i $newroot/bin/withlist -l $list < m.private_archive_file_dir > m.private_archive_file_dir='$newroot/archives/private/$list.mbox' > m.public_archive_file_dir > m.public_archive_file_dir='$newroot/archives/public' > m.archive_directory > m.archive_directory='$newroot/archives/private/$list' > m.Save() > EOF > done > --- > > > (Hmm. I also somehow missed the change in meeting schedule from every > > Thursday to 1st and 3rd Thursdays only. It might have been posted to > > this list, but I can't check that in the archives. ;-> ) > > Heh. > > -Jon > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > > End of Buug Digest -- ********************************* California State University ----------- Jennifer Tran Email: jtran at bms.calstate.edu Phone: (562)951-4395 Making everyday a better day ********************************* From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Jul 18 21:03:35 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 21:03:35 -0700 Subject: [buug] ACLs implementations (was: Buug digest, Vol 1 #221 - 1 msg) In-Reply-To: <3B532E95.A03D6AF2@bms.calstate.edu> Message-ID: <20010718210335.H31244@uncle-enzo.linuxmafia.com> begin Jennifer Tran quotation: > I am interested in all info regarding to ACL on Unix. I can tell you about ACL support on specifically _Linux_. Linux has third-party ACL support from multiple development projects, with divergent approaches, all aiming to allow the administrator some means of specifying what capabilities a process is to be allowed, and other fine-grained permissions (including Mandatory Access Control labels, Capabilities, and auditing information). All require modifications (third-party, unofficial kernel patches) to the Linux kernel's filesystem and VFS code (umask and access-control modifications), which sometimes take a while to catch up with new kernel releases. The kernel maintainers have not endorsed any one approach. Thus, implementing any of these approaches remains an advanced topic using experimental code. Further, there is not broad agreement on what filesystem it is best to use with ACLs. The obvious choices are ext2 + extended-attributes extensions, Steven Tweedie's ext3 (ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/sct/fs/jfs/), the AFS implementations from IBM/Transarc (http://www.transarc.com/Product/EFS/AFS/) or the Arla Project (http://www.stacken.kth.se/projekt/arla/), GFS (http://www.globalfilesystem.org/), or ReiserFS (http://devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs/). Adding further confusion is that the leading candidate for an ACL standard, IEEE Std 1003.1e, was withdrawn by the IEEE/PASC/SEC working group while it was still a draft, on Jan. 15, 1998, and thus was never formally included in POSIX (http://www.guug.de/~winni/posix.1e/). It nonetheless remains influential. Generic "capabilities" support is included in 2.2 and greater kernels, including a control in /proc called the "capabilities bounding set". Many "capabilities" operations will also require libcap, a library for getting and setting POSIX 1003.1e-type capabilities, which you can find at ftp://ftp.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/kernel-2.2 . See also the Linux Kernel Capabilities FAQ: ftp://ftp.de.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/kernel-2.2/capfaq-0.2.txt The VFS patches, filesystems extensions or other filesystem facilities to store ACLs, patches for fsck utilities (preventing them from "cleaning up" your extended attributes), patches for GNU fileutils, patches for the quota tools, and administrative tools must be provided by the various unofficial ACL-on-Linux projects, of which there are several. In addition to applying any applicable patches to your kernel, you will have to enable three kernel-configuration options (all in the "filesystems" section): "Extended filesystem attributes" (CONFIG_FS_EXT_ATTR), "Access Control Lists" (CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL) and "Extended attributes for ext2" (CONFIG_EXT2_FS_EXT_ATTR). In order to be offered these configuration options, you must also select "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" (CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL) in the code-maturity level options, towards the beginning of kernel configuration. The AFS distributed storage system, originally developed at CMU, generically has built-in support for ACLs. As such, it seems reasonable to suspect that IBM/Transarc's leading AFS implementation on Linux, due to have an open-source (GPLed) development fork on the near future, would include ACL support. We have been unable to confirm that from Transarc's documentation, thus far. This may change as Transarc completes its open-source rollout. (Unfortunately, Transarc's open-source fork will have a licence problem that will prevent it shipping with Linux-based systems: It will be issued under the IBM Public Licence, which, although open source, is not compatible with the GNU General Public Licence the Linux kernel is issued under.) The pre-existing Linux AFS project, the GPL-licenced Arla Project, has reportedly been moving slowly. The quality of its ACL support is likewise unknown. The existing documentation for AFS on Linux, unfortunately, makes no mention of ACLs or capabilities support: http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~x42/linuxafs/linuxafs.html http://web.urz.uni-heidelberg.de/Veranstaltungen/LUG/Vortraege/AFS/AFS-HOWTO.html There have been two main attempts to implement POSIX ACLs on ext2 + extensions. One was the LiVE Project, at http://aerobee.informatik.uni-bremen.de/acl_eng.html . That effort appears to be now defunct. The other, and probably your best bet for ACLs on Linux today, is Andreas Gruenbacher's Linux ACLs project, http://acl.bestbits.at / . Gruenbacher has a well-developed ACL implementation with storage extensions for ext2, linking the extended attributes to inodes, and with ACLs among the data storable in those extended attributes. He expects that porting his subsystem to ext3 will be easy. The Samba Project now supports Gruenbacher's approach in Samba on Linux (where it has been compiled into Linux kernels). The Linux Trustees Project (http://acl.bestbits.at/) is a non-POSIX, memory-based approach, loading all extended-attributes information from a database at startup. RSBAC (http://www.rsbac.de/) is another Linux project to implement non-POSIX ACLs, along with a number of other security-architecture goals. Linux-Privs (http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-privs /) is (was?) a project to implement the entire POSIX draft on Linux, but may now be defunct. These files appear to be related, and seem to be the work of Linux kernel programmer Andrew G. Morgan (with some code by Gruenbacher): ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/security/linux-privs/kernel-2.2-fcap/ The ReiserFS and GFS maintainers are aware of the desirability of adding extended-attribute support to their filesystems, but have not yet done so. Hans Reiser is believed to favour a system implementing Macintosh-style resource streams/forks of artbitrary length to store the extended information, rather than extended-attribute storage within the filesystem structure. Andreas Dilger has spoken of the Intermezzo distributed file system project (http://www.inter-mezzo.org /) in the near future implementing extended attributes similar to Gruenbacher's, making future ACL support on that filesystem (which is still in early beta) likely. The LIDS Project (http://www.lids.org/) implements some "capabilities" ideas, but not ACLs. Last, Pavel Machek maintains an "ELF capabilities" kernel patch and matching utilities, which allow the admin to strip specified capabilities from binary executables at execution time. It does not provide other ACL-type capabilities. The information on what capabilities to drop for a given binary upon execution is stored inside the ELF header, in a manner compatible with ordinary Linux operation. The advantage to this approach is that it does not require extended-attributes support in the underlying filesystem. Full details are at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/elfcap.html . -- Cheers, "I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate Rick Moen those who do. And, for the people who like country music, rick at linuxmafia.com denigrate means 'put down'." -- Bob Newhart From jammer at weak.org Fri Jul 20 10:39:13 2001 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:39:13 -0700 Subject: [buug] Free LinuxWorld Con Expo pass... 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Message-ID: <3B5E62D4.7090800@jps.net> Why is it that if I move my hard drive, I can boot linux and run most stuff except for things that look for kernel modules? for example...I have my hard drive has /dev/hda....it boots into linux...I type ppp-on...it works. I put the harddrive as the second drive...and boot to /dev/hdc2 it boots, I can run start x...but if I type ppp-go, it says my kernel doesn't have ppp support...and it complains about not finding some files. same with sound... From info at gooddoggygrafx.com Fri Jul 27 12:12:20 2001 From: info at gooddoggygrafx.com (Robert Roberts) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:12:20 -0700 Subject: [buug] MySQL permissions question Message-ID: <000e01c116d0$1ca0e680$0200000a@firstworld.com> Hello: While this isn't strictly a Unix question, maybe someone out there is familiar enough with administering MySQL to clarify a permissions question. I have read and re-read the available documentation and a variety of tutorials regarding the MySQL Access Privelege System, but am still unclear on a few details. I've also scoured what I've been able to find via forums. MySQL is successfully installed, and I am able to connect, create databases, tables, etc. The scenario: ---I'm running a small server with FreeBSD 3.4, Apache 1.3.17, PHP 4.0.4pl1, and have just migrated to MySQL 3.23.40 [yes, I must now re-build Apache/php]. ---The server hosts my own sites, plus a few others. The goal: ---I want to set up a database for one of my hosting clients. They would like to use a php-based application for events announcements, which requires access to a database. The php application sets up a browser-based administration gui. I would do all set-up for them, and show them how to use it. My assumption: mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE ON client_db.* TO db_user at localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; Now this is where I get a bit confused. It's not clear to me where the client is connecting from. I assume they are connecting from localhost because everything is all on the same server. But: ---are they, in actuality, connecting from their own virtual host, " db_user at virtual_host.com "? ---they are connecting from a remote machine, so are they, then, connecting from some other host? ---if they are connecting from a remote machine with a dial-up connection, then it is undoubtedly a dynamic IP address, so there would be no consistent "host" to connect from. I believe I've supplied all relevant info, so if someone is able to shed some light on this, I will be most appreciative. Thanks, Robert Roberts info at gooddoggygrafx.com From alex at myzona.net Fri Jul 27 12:41:11 2001 From: alex at myzona.net (Alex M) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 12:41:11 -0700 Subject: [buug] MySQL permissions question References: <000e01c116d0$1ca0e680$0200000a@firstworld.com> Message-ID: <001b01c116d4$174ec2c0$9601a8c0@parkson> Hello, While i havent been playing with MySQL much, i had to do the same stuff, and docs on www.devshed.com helped me a lot. Its the least i can do. good luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Roberts" To: Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: [buug] MySQL permissions question > Hello: > While this isn't strictly a Unix question, maybe someone out there is > familiar enough with administering MySQL to clarify a permissions question. > I have read and re-read the available documentation and a variety of > tutorials regarding the MySQL Access Privelege System, but am still unclear > on a few details. I've also scoured what I've been able to find via forums. > MySQL is successfully installed, and I am able to connect, create databases, > tables, etc. > > The scenario: > ---I'm running a small server with FreeBSD 3.4, Apache 1.3.17, PHP 4.0.4pl1, > and have just migrated to MySQL 3.23.40 [yes, I must now re-build > Apache/php]. > ---The server hosts my own sites, plus a few others. > > The goal: > ---I want to set up a database for one of my hosting clients. They would > like to use a php-based application for events announcements, which requires > access to a database. The php application sets up a browser-based > administration gui. I would do all set-up for them, and show them how to use > it. > > My assumption: > mysql> GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE ON client_db.* > TO db_user at localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'password'; > > Now this is where I get a bit confused. It's not clear to me where the > client is connecting from. I assume they are connecting from localhost > because everything is all on the same server. But: > ---are they, in actuality, connecting from their own virtual host, " > db_user at virtual_host.com "? > ---they are connecting from a remote machine, so are they, then, connecting > from some other host? > ---if they are connecting from a remote machine with a dial-up connection, > then it is undoubtedly a dynamic IP address, so there would be no consistent > "host" to connect from. > > I believe I've supplied all relevant info, so if someone is able to shed > some light on this, I will be most appreciative. > > Thanks, > Robert Roberts > info at gooddoggygrafx.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > From alex at myzona.net Fri Jul 27 13:10:27 2001 From: alex at myzona.net (Alex M) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 13:10:27 -0700 Subject: [buug] Happy SAAD (BOFH) Day! Message-ID: <001501c116d8$2d9570c0$9601a8c0@parkson> If i am correct, July 27 is the Sys Admin Appreciation Day. Happy BOFH day everybody :))) http://www.sysadminday.com http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/20710.html -=-=-=- Regards, Alex M aka TZapper mailto:alex at myzona.net URL: www.myzona.net From nick at zork.net Sat Jul 28 11:10:09 2001 From: nick at zork.net (Nick Moffitt) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 11:10:09 -0700 Subject: [buug] ANNOUNCEMENT: Free Dmitry rally at SF Civic Center Monday, July 30 11:30am Message-ID: <20010728111009.A1715@zork.net> With Adobe's show of good faith regarding Dmitry Sklyarov's persecution by the FBI and DOJ, we can declare last Monday's demonstration a success! But it is a limited success, in that Dmitry Sklyarov still sits in a federal holding cell in Las Vegas, awaiting the US Marshals to haul him away in chains to California. We can not simply let this happen! We cannot sit idly by and say to ourselves "Oh, I freed Dmitry last week! 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So here's how you can help us out! * Make your own sign if you can't go to the party. Be sure that it is civil, and does not mention adobe. The key message that we want to hammer in is "FREE DMITRY", so make sure it says those two words *somewhere* on it. If you can't make a sign, just being there is good for the cause! * Call up the press and send them this announcement. Many of them missed the event in San Jose, and now's their chance to cover the FREE DMITRY movement! * Show up at San Francisco's Civic Center Plaza, Monday the 30th of July at 11:30am PDT. The site is accessible from BART, MUNI Metro, and any number of MUNI buses. It's the green square marked "City Hall Plaza" on the following map: http://linuxmafia.com/bale/map-freedmitry-citycentre.jpeg You can spot us because we'll be the ones with the signs and the shirts that say "FREE DMITRY" on them. We will meet near the intersection of Fulton and Larkin, near the huge statue given by James Lick to the City of San Francisco. Simply step out of the Civic Center BART/Muni Metro station using the escalator labeled "UN Plaza" and walk through the park to the statue. City hall will be across the courtyard in front of you, and the library will be to your left. Walk along until you hit Larkin St. * Go to the signmaking party this Sunday. Check these mailing lists for the announcement, or mail vadim at xcf.berkeley.edu for details. * Be ready to CALL THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA ON THE CARPET! Be prepared to GIVE THEM A PIECE OF YOUR MIND! Tell these folks to DROP THE CASE because the DMCA is an UNJUST LAW! DEMAND that they return this man to his family PRONTO! Last Monday's events saw HUNDREDS of demonstrators crying for justice. The fact that this was achieved with little to no preparation speaks to the power and widespread respect for the Free Dmitry movement. We now have four days in which to prepare for this demonstration, so it will be spectacular! So join us now and FREE DMITRY! Nick Moffitt, Coalition To Free Dmitry References _________________________________________________________________ http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov/ Free-Sklyarov e-mail mailing list (High-traffic) https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov-announce/ Free-Sklyarov e-mail announcement list (Announcements only) http://freedmitry.org/ Free Dmitry news page http://freesklyarov.org/ Free Sklyarov info page http://eff.org/ Electronic Frontier Foundation -- "The only thing is certain: Russian petty computer hooligans are very slovenly, while FBI agents are very persistent in hunting them." --Pravda 01234567 <- The amazing* indent-o-meter! ^ (*: Indent-o-meter may not actually amaze.)