From dbslinux at bellsouth.net Sat Sep 8 11:39:40 2001 From: dbslinux at bellsouth.net (dbslinux at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 14:39:40 -0400 Subject: [buug] linuxconfig Message-ID: <20010908183940.UGJ4317.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> Can anyone tell me which parts of Linux 7.1 have to be installed for linuxconfig to load? Thanks.. From bill at wiliweld.com Sat Sep 8 12:36:30 2001 From: bill at wiliweld.com (Bill Schoolcraft) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 12:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] linuxconfig In-Reply-To: <20010908183940.UGJ4317.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> Message-ID: At Sat, 8 Sep 2001 it looks like dbslinux at bellsouth.net composed: dbslin->Can anyone tell me which parts of Linux 7.1 have to be installed for linuxconfig to load? dbslin-> dbslin->Thanks.. dbslin-> If it's not currently installed, rpm -ivh the package off the installation CD. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 San Francisco, CA 94121 http://ForwardSlashUnix.com "UNIX, A Way of Life." From johndela1 at jps.net Sat Sep 8 13:13:35 2001 From: johndela1 at jps.net (johndela1 at jps.net) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 13:13:35 -0700 Subject: [buug] linuxconfig In-Reply-To: <20010908183940.UGJ4317.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]>; from dbslinux@bellsouth.net on Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 02:39:40PM -0400 References: <20010908183940.UGJ4317.imf10bis.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> Message-ID: <20010908131335.B166@vette.onemain.com> the latest version of linux is 2.4 what are you talking 'Linux 7.1', there is no such thing. redhat is not linux, by the way...red hat is a package of things that heklps you install linux. Forget about linuxconf, and learn linux...don't depend on some cheesy tool. What exactly do you need to do, with linuxconf? It can by achieved with out linux conf. On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 02:39:40PM -0400, dbslinux at bellsouth.net wrote: > Can anyone tell me which parts of Linux 7.1 have to be installed for linuxconfig to load? > > Thanks.. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug From feedle at feedle.net Mon Sep 10 12:04:44 2001 From: feedle at feedle.net (C. Sullivan) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... Message-ID: So, I recently purchased a copy of Corel WordPerfect Office for Linux, and I've been trying to get it working. At some point, I'll write up a decent review of it (being as I've seen it cheap around town, it might not be a bad investment if StarOffice or Koffice dosen't turn you on). But, Iwanted to get people's opinion about something that it does that I feel is broken. So, I've had some problems with it working properly. I call Corel's technical support, and I get told that it will not work if you mount your home directories over NFS. The reasons given were because of some security hole that is present in WINE (WPO2000 isn't native Linux code, it's just compiled against some WINE library). Now, is it just me, or is this... well, sloppy? I mean, having NFS mounted home directories seems to me to be SOP in installations that have multiple machines. Even in Windows shops, it's not uncommon for users to have home directories hosted on other machines. Just wanted to bounce this off the group. Perhaps the reason Corel hasn't had success in the Linux market may be because... *gasp* their software is defective. -Fedl From feedle at feedle.net Mon Sep 10 15:49:24 2001 From: feedle at feedle.net (C. Sullivan) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:49:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... In-Reply-To: <20010910220754Z234862-13770+1@bureau8.utcc.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Karshi Hasanov wrote: > Maybe I can help you out if you tell me more what's not working with Corel > WP _Linux. > Are you running WP_2000? Word Perfect Office 2000 Deluxe, retail edition. The one that comes with the little stuffed penguin beanie. > What version of XFree86 you are using? Umm.. 3.3.6, I believe. It's whatever version is the default for Debian potatoR3. > I've Corel WP_2000 running on my machine. I had to fix some problems , and it > works fine. It works great if I don't have my /home partition mounted off of NFS. And, I've hacked a workaround: I've symlinked the .wpo2000/ and .corel/ directories in my NFS mounted home directory to places on a local filesystem, and it works. My assertion was that this was the result of defective programming. From what I heard, this was done intentionally because of some "security flaw" with either WINE or Linux's socket code. This should have not been an issue: NFS imported /home is not, by any strech of the imagination, "weird." -Fedl From rick at linuxmafia.com Mon Sep 10 19:01:12 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:01:12 -0700 Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010910190112.Y791@linuxmafia.com> begin C. Sullivan quotation: > So, I recently purchased a copy of Corel WordPerfect Office for Linux, and > I've been trying to get it working. At some point, I'll write up a decent > review of it (being as I've seen it cheap around town, it might not be a > bad investment if StarOffice or Koffice dosen't turn you on). But, > Iwanted to get people's opinion about something that it does that I feel > is broken. You know, I've just never been impressed by WordPerfect 9.0 for Linux and the other parts of "Corel WordPerfect Office 2000". Mostly because they're Winelib implementations, rather than genuine native Linux binaries. On the other hand, WP 8 for Linux _is_ a proper Linux native binary, and is a great deal less bloated and more stable. You can find a copy inside http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/apps/ . > Now, is it just me, or is this... well, sloppy? You bet. Of course, (1) using Winelib cut their development cost to the bone (at the expense of quality, in my view), and (2) their target market probably doesn't mind the compromises -- or the bloat, for that matter. > Just wanted to bounce this off the group. Perhaps the reason Corel hasn't > had success in the Linux market may be because... *gasp* their software is > defective. Try WP 8.0. I still like it a great deal -- considering it's proprietary software with no long-term prospects whatsoever. It was a nice achievement. -- Cheers, Everything is gone; Rick Moen Your life's work has been destroyed. rick at linuxmafia.com Squeeze trigger (yes/no)? -- David Carlson (winner, haiku error message contest) From bill at wiliweld.com Mon Sep 10 19:10:58 2001 From: bill at wiliweld.com (Bill Schoolcraft) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At Mon, 10 Sep 2001 it looks like C. Sullivan composed: feedle->So, I recently purchased a copy of Corel WordPerfect Office for Linux, and feedle->I've been trying to get it working. At some point, I'll write up a decent feedle->review of it (being as I've seen it cheap around town, it might not be a feedle->bad investment if StarOffice or Koffice dosen't turn you on). But, feedle->Iwanted to get people's opinion about something that it does that I feel feedle->is broken. Hello Family, I've always likes Word_Perfect-8 for Linux, it's made for Linux and works great. I have heard the same complaints from everyone concerning the newer WP. They _used_ to have the download version for WP-8 available off the web, not sure if that's the case anymore. -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 San Francisco, CA 94121 http://ForwardSlashUnix.com "UNIX, A Way of Life." From cmsclaud at arches.uga.edu Tue Sep 11 10:48:00 2001 From: cmsclaud at arches.uga.edu (Claude Rubinson) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It appears that WordPerfect 8 for Linux is no longer available for download from either Corel or CNet. I have to say that this is unfortunate because WP is one of those "killer apps" that many people require (or, at least, "think" that they require). As a graduate student in sociology, I know that many academics (especially within the social sciences) still rely exclusively on WP. The really crucial thing, of course, is the .wpd file format. Does anyone know if any of the Unix wordprocessors can handle WP's file format? I hear a lot about Word compatibility but never have heard anything about WP. Fortunately, WP's file format hasn't changed since WP6. If anyone does need a copy of WP, you might still be able to find a copy of the shrinkwrapped box for sale somewhere (runs around $30 IIRC). It's also available as a DEB with the Corel OS which only costs about $5 from CompUSA or Best Buy. Finally, I have a copy of the tar.gz'd binary. It's about 23 meg, so you'd need to provide either an FTP site for upload or a zip disk (my cd burner died a while back and I've neve bothered to replace it). Claude On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > At Mon, 10 Sep 2001 it looks like C. Sullivan composed: > > feedle->So, I recently purchased a copy of Corel WordPerfect Office for Linux, and > feedle->I've been trying to get it working. At some point, I'll write up a decent > feedle->review of it (being as I've seen it cheap around town, it might not be a > feedle->bad investment if StarOffice or Koffice dosen't turn you on). But, > feedle->Iwanted to get people's opinion about something that it does that I feel > feedle->is broken. > > Hello Family, > > I've always likes Word_Perfect-8 for Linux, it's made for Linux and > works great. I have heard the same complaints from everyone > concerning the newer WP. > > They _used_ to have the download version for WP-8 available off the > web, not sure if that's the case anymore. > > -- > Bill Schoolcraft > PO Box 210076 > San Francisco, CA 94121 > http://ForwardSlashUnix.com > > "UNIX, A Way of Life." > > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > From rick at linuxmafia.com Tue Sep 11 13:05:03 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:05:03 -0700 Subject: [buug] Corel WordPerfect isn't... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20010911130503.Z791@linuxmafia.com> begin Claude Rubinson quotation: > It appears that WordPerfect 8 for Linux is no longer available for > download from either Corel or CNet. To repeat: http://linuxmafia.com/pub/linux/apps/ > The really crucial thing, of course, is the .wpd file format. Does anyone > know if any of the Unix wordprocessors can handle WP's file format? Judging by its Open File dialogue, Star Office 5.2 doesn't, which seems to make it unlikely that Open Office pre-6.0 build 633 does. KWord appears to offer only HTML, its own XML-based format, ApplixWord, ASCII, and some KPresenter formats. So, I guess you'll have to fall back on WP 8.0. ;-> -- Cheers, "Not using Microsoft products is like being a non-smoker Rick Moen 40 or 50 years ago: You can choose not to smoke, yourself, rick at linuxmafia.com but it's hard to avoid second-hand smoke." -- M. Tiemann From rick at linuxmafia.com Sat Sep 15 22:31:00 2001 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:31:00 -0700 Subject: [buug] InstallFest tomorrow (Sunday) Message-ID: <20010915223100.B31957@linuxmafia.com> It's InstallFest / Install-A-Thon time again. The Bay Area BSD and Linux communities are once again collaborating on a joint "freenix" event at the Robert Austin Computer Show (swap meet), Sunday, Sept. 16 (tomorrow) from 10 AM to 4 PM -- at the Oakland Convention Center, right next to the 12 Street Oakland BART station. What's this all about? Install. Get technical help. Hang out and shmooze. Directions: http://www.robertaustin.com/directions.htm#oakland Maps: http://www.robertaustin.com/map_oakland.htm For x86 machines, we'll have current stable versions of all four open-source BSDs (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD[1], and Apple Darwin), a snapshot of FreeBSD current (5.0) and 4.4rc1, and a couple of _dozen_ or more Linux distributions, including the latest betas of Linux-Mandrake and Red Hat, plus Linux binaries of Star Office, Open Office, Word Perfect 8.0, and, for the amusement value, Microsoft NetShow 2.0 beta for Linux. Non-x86? I also have NetBSD for all supported architectures, Yellow Dog 2.0 and the LinuxPPC 2000 "MacWorld" for PPC machines, and Debian 2.2 for SPARC and DEC Alpha machines. We'll be equipped for regular CD-ROM installs, NFS/ftp/http installs, PLIP / laplink-cable installs, you name it. This event is put on as a joint production of: CABAL: Consortium of All Bay Area Linux (Menlo Park) BAFUG: Bay Area FreeBSD User Group (Berkeley & Foster City) BALUG: Bay Area Linux User Group (San Francisco) SVBUG: Silicon Valley BSD User Group (San Jose) Anyone who needs help with installs, needs help with BSD or Linux problems, or just wants to hang out and chat is very welcome to join us. Be advised that the Robert Austin Company does charge $8 general adult admission. Details here: http://www.robertaustin.com/showregistation.htm Answers to most other questions can be found here: http://linuxmafia.com/cabal/installfest/ [1] Not the just-released 1.5.2. I have the 1.5.1 "multiboot" CD from ftp.iastate.edu covering most architectures, and 1.5 covering the rest.