[buug] mozilla

[Rob Helmer]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:32:38PM -0800, Nick Moffitt wrote:
> begin  f.johan.beisser  quotation:
> > i suspect you're going to be SOL. gecko itself is not tiny by any
> > means.  most of those "alternatives using gecko" need to have
> > mozilla installed with it, which just kills the space saving aspect
> > of it.
> 
> 	Why can't they just lift out the gecko sources and use that?
> I really don't get it.  I can handle gecko being a few megs of bloated
> libraries, but I just don't want all the other cruft that mojira comes
> with.

You can. It's redistributing it that's the trick. 

The Galeon people are waiting for the relicensing -

http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/missing.html

Google for details.

There's also a project at Mozilla to split Gecko into a 
"runtime environment", probably just a bunch of libraries despite the
fancy name :

http://mozilla.org/projects/embedding/MRE.html

Finally, nightly builds ( or builds from source ) of Mozilla come
with TestGtkEmbed, which is a very simple browser. Simple enough
to be an example or test, not something most people would use
everyday. It does show the bare minimum needed to implement Gecko
though.

$ ls -l TestGtkEmbed

-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer     18972 Oct 29 08:42 TestGtkEmbed

$ ldd TestGtkEmbed
        libgtkembedmoz.so => ./libgtkembedmoz.so (0x40014000)
        libgtksuperwin.so => ./libgtksuperwin.so (0x4002e000)
        libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4003f000)
        libmozjs.so => ./libmozjs.so (0x40042000)
        libxpcom.so => ./libxpcom.so (0x400b3000)
        libplds4.so => ./libplds4.so (0x401a8000)
        libplc4.so => ./libplc4.so (0x401ab000)
        libnspr4.so => ./libnspr4.so (0x401b0000)
        libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x401de000)
        libgtk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x401f2000)
        libgdk-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x40317000)
        libgmodule-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x4034b000)
        libglib-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x4034e000)
        libXi.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x40371000)
        libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x40379000)
        libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40387000)
        libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40461000)
        libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 (0x40482000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x404c4000)
        /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)


$ ls -la `ldd TestGtkEmbed | awk '{print $1}'`
( not counting system/gtk/X11 libraries, just Mozilla )

-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer     98520 Oct 29 08:42 libgtkembedmoz.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer     17216 Oct 29 08:42 libgtksuperwin.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer    461748 Oct 29 08:42 libmozjs.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer    179584 Oct 29 08:42 libnspr4.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer     16084 Oct 29 08:42 libplc4.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer      9804 Oct 29 08:42 libplds4.so
-rwxr-xr-x    1 rhelmer  rhelmer   1011408 Oct 29 08:42 libxpcom.so

( some of these libraries link to eachother, but I didn't see anything
else that linked further into the Mozilla libraries ).



--
Rob