From john at jjdev.com Mon Mar 3 11:08:48 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:08:48 -0800 Subject: [buug] mounting a dmg from the command line (mac os x) Message-ID: <20030303190848.GA9392@stang.jjdev.com> Does anyone know how to mount a .dmg file from the command line in Mac OS X? From markc at binaryfaith.com Mon Mar 3 11:24:55 2003 From: markc at binaryfaith.com (Mark Cohen) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:24:55 -0800 Subject: [buug] mounting a dmg from the command line (mac os x) In-Reply-To: <20030303190848.GA9392@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: hdiutil mount /path/to/dmg -Mark On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 11:08 AM, johnd wrote: > Does anyone know how to mount a .dmg file from the command line in > Mac OS X? > > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > From john at jjdev.com Mon Mar 3 11:37:52 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:37:52 -0800 Subject: [buug] mounting a dmg from the command line (mac os x) In-Reply-To: References: <20030303190848.GA9392@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030303193752.GA9435@stang.jjdev.com> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 11:24:55AM -0800, Mark Cohen wrote: > hdiutil mount /path/to/dmg > > -Mark I tried that already and get this: hdiutil attach: mounting "Powerwave.dmg" failed: no mountable file systems. yet I can double click it and it will mount...problem is I'm not there and need to get something from inside the .dmg. From markc at binaryfaith.com Mon Mar 3 12:04:47 2003 From: markc at binaryfaith.com (Mark Cohen) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:04:47 -0800 Subject: [buug] mounting a dmg from the command line (mac os x) In-Reply-To: <20030303193752.GA9435@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <620B2671-4DB3-11D7-AF14-000393CFEB26@binaryfaith.com> What are the permissions on the file. When I did it, and it worked, the perms were -rw-r--r-- Owned by me Grouped by staff. -Mark On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 11:37 AM, johnd wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 11:24:55AM -0800, Mark Cohen wrote: >> hdiutil mount /path/to/dmg >> >> -Mark > > I tried that already and get this: > > hdiutil attach: mounting "Powerwave.dmg" failed: no mountable file > systems. > > > yet I can double click it and it will mount...problem is I'm not there > and > need to get something from inside the .dmg. > > From john at jjdev.com Mon Mar 3 12:09:21 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:09:21 -0800 Subject: [buug] mounting a dmg from the command line (mac os x) In-Reply-To: <620B2671-4DB3-11D7-AF14-000393CFEB26@binaryfaith.com> References: <20030303193752.GA9435@stang.jjdev.com> <620B2671-4DB3-11D7-AF14-000393CFEB26@binaryfaith.com> Message-ID: <20030303200921.GA15476@stang.jjdev.com> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 12:04:47PM -0800, Mark Cohen wrote: > What are the permissions on the file. > > When I did it, and it worked, the perms were -rw-r--r-- Owned by me > Grouped by staff. same as yours... oh well...it's not a big deal. There is probably something weird about the file. thanks for the input From john at jjdev.com Tue Mar 4 12:29:28 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:29:28 -0800 Subject: [buug] mac os X command line tools Message-ID: <20030304202928.GA602@stang.jjdev.com> Anyone know of any Mac OS X command line tools to view and edit the calendar or address book? From atporter at primate.net Wed Mar 5 10:35:25 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 10:35:25 -0800 Subject: [buug] CNN Fun Message-ID: <20030305183525.GK15319@primate.net> This works as of 10:34am PST... Load http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/ and make note of the poll on the left hand side of the page, then view source and search for the string "Answer34595" and wonder what their motivation was... From atporter at primate.net Wed Mar 5 11:25:46 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:25:46 -0800 Subject: [buug] CNN Fun In-Reply-To: <20030305192313.GA1448@parvu.net> References: <20030305183525.GK15319@primate.net> <20030305192313.GA1448@parvu.net> Message-ID: <20030305192546.GL15319@primate.net> On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:23:13AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote: > Looks to me like it is something left over from a previous poll. They > probably leave the code in there as a template until they need to > replace it. I checked googles cache of the page from Monday and it > contains this. They seem to change the poll very frequently. For a time, the poll was about who posed the greatest threat to peace made a good laugh that the options were: 1: Saddam 2: Kim Jong Il 3: Ossama 4: Bush (commented out) From ted at parvu.net Wed Mar 5 11:23:13 2003 From: ted at parvu.net (Ted Parvu) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:23:13 -0800 Subject: [buug] CNN Fun In-Reply-To: <20030305183525.GK15319@primate.net> References: <20030305183525.GK15319@primate.net> Message-ID: <20030305192313.GA1448@parvu.net> Looks to me like it is something left over from a previous poll. They probably leave the code in there as a template until they need to replace it. I checked googles cache of the page from Monday and it contains this. !-- Answer 1 --> Yes No So, I would say that haven't had a 4 response poll in a while. Pretty innocuous I would say. I find hope in that the polls results so far show 72% of the respondents agree with Pope John II that this war is unjust. Ted On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:35:25AM -0800, Aaron T Porter wrote: > > This works as of 10:34am PST... > > Load http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/wolf.blitzer.reports/ and > make note of the poll on the left hand side of the page, then view source > and search for the string "Answer34595" and wonder what their motivation > was... > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- WAR IS GOOD FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH From itz at speakeasy.org Wed Mar 5 20:58:21 2003 From: itz at speakeasy.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: 05 Mar 2003 20:58:21 -0800 Subject: [buug] Solaris manpage Message-ID: <86wujdrt02.fsf@kronstadt.homeunix.net> Hi, can someone with access to a live Solaris system please check "man streamio" for me? I am looking for the I_FIND request. I know in general what it is supposed to do, but I don't know the sense of the return value - 0 if found, or 0 if not found? Thanks. -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. if (sizeof(signed) > sizeof(unsigned) + 4) { delete this; } GPG: 433BA087 9C0F 194F 203A 63F7 B1B8 6E5A 8CA3 27DB 433B A087 From jan at caustic.org Wed Mar 5 21:05:01 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:05:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] Solaris manpage In-Reply-To: <86wujdrt02.fsf@kronstadt.homeunix.net> Message-ID: <20030305210436.B23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On 5 Mar 2003, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Hi, can someone with access to a live Solaris system please check > "man streamio" for me? I am looking for the I_FIND request. I know > in general what it is supposed to do, but I don't know the sense of > the return value - 0 if found, or 0 if not found? http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/805-3179/6j31igpbj?q=streamio&a=view kind of a pain to find, but there it is. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From webmaster at hawaiidakine.com Thu Mar 6 11:58:37 2003 From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com (al plant) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 09:58:37 -1000 Subject: [buug] Installing AbiSuite Message-ID: <3E67A86D.EA20994E@hawaiidakine.com> Hi Gurus, Is there a way to get AbiSuite to install on FreeBSD 4.5 from the FreeBSD server using /stand/sysinstall? Or since the version is older do I have to use a tar.gz ? I have a tar.gz on the box now and get it unziped and untared, but I can't get it to go any further as it is in three directories at this stage and make and make and make install won't work on any of them. Could someone point me to a how to that is step by step for this problem? All the How To's I have are for AbiWord. Thanks. Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Member Small Business Hawaii. Running FreeBSD 4.5 UNIX & Caldera Linux 2.4 & RedHat 7.2 Support OPEN SOURCE in Business Computing. Phone 808-622-0043 From evans at ncseweb.org Thu Mar 6 18:25:33 2003 From: evans at ncseweb.org (Skip Evans) Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 18:25:33 -0800 Subject: [buug] Programming for the web in C? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> Hey all, A buug thanks to thanks to John for getting the list back up. Anyone know of a good book on programming for the web in C? I'm basically thinking of how to write code that can execute http type calls and stuff from from C. I would like to be able to shoot a call out through web server with a URL constructed in C and grab the data that comes back myself. Any thoughts? Thanks, Skip Skip Evans Network Project Director National Center for Science Education 420 40th St, Suite 2 Oakland, CA 94609 510-601-7203 Ext. 308 510-601-7204 (fax) 800-290-6006 evans at ncseweb.org http://www.ncseweb.org NCSE now has a one way broadcast news list. Please note that this is NOT a discussion list. You cannot post messages for members to receive. We use this list to broadcast news about the creationism/evolution issue to interested parties. To sign up send: subscribe ncse your at email.address.here to: majordomo at ncseweb2.org To unsubscribe send: unsubscribe ncse your at email.address.here to: majordomo at ncseweb2.org From itz at speakeasy.org Thu Mar 6 19:17:16 2003 From: itz at speakeasy.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: 06 Mar 2003 19:17:16 -0800 Subject: [buug] Programming for the web in C? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <86d6l3j26b.fsf@kronstadt.homeunix.net> Skip> I'm basically thinking of how to write code that can execute Skip> http type calls and stuff from from C. I would like to be able Skip> to shoot a call out through web server with a URL constructed in Skip> C and grab the data that comes back myself. Why not just fork/shell out a wget or curl process? -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. if (sizeof(signed) > sizeof(unsigned) + 4) { delete this; } GPG: 433BA087 9C0F 194F 203A 63F7 B1B8 6E5A 8CA3 27DB 433B A087 From abhay_srivastava at infosys.com Thu Mar 6 21:57:23 2003 From: abhay_srivastava at infosys.com (Abhay Kumar Srivastava) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:27:23 +0530 Subject: [buug] (no subject) Message-ID: <882B7E812BE14E4BA7E86387242C8DB9025905C1@kecmsg11.ad.infosys.com> I am upgrading from 3.2 to 4.7. but the hardware remains the same (with minor modifications) there are some ISA devices like ISA NVRAM, ppc, sio2,sio3 and some custom devices. As most of these devices share the same range of registers, with different irq's we need to resolve the conflicts. I know in 3.2 we write conflicts in the config file, but how do we do in freebsd 4.7. Eg:: in 3.2 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts 4.7 device vga0 at isa? But if there is conflict how to resolve that ??? Regards, Abhay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Thu Mar 6 23:54:41 2003 From: nthomas at cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 02:54:41 -0500 Subject: [buug] Programming for the web in C? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20030307075441.GE20924@cise.ufl.edu> * Skip Evans [2003-03-06 18:25:33 -0800]: > Anyone know of a good book on programming for the web in C? > > I'm basically thinking of how to write code that can execute http type > calls and stuff from from C. I would like to be able to shoot a call > out through web server with a URL constructed in C and grab the data > that comes back myself. Skip, Check out the Book Review section of the ACCU page: http://www.accu.org/ Not sure if they'll have exactly what you want, but their reviews are top notch. thomas -- N. Thomas nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From jerry-sourceforge at theashergroup.com Fri Mar 7 02:52:52 2003 From: jerry-sourceforge at theashergroup.com (Jerry Asher) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 02:52:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] Programming for the web in C? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030306182319.014660d8@mail.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <1190.68.3.55.171.1047034372.squirrel@209.233.238.162> Skip Evans said: > Hey all, > > A buug thanks to thanks to John for getting the list back up. > > Anyone know of a good book on programming for the web in C? > > I'm basically thinking of how to write code that can execute > http type calls and stuff from from C. I would like to be able > to shoot a call out through web server with a URL constructed > in C and grab the data that comes back myself. > > Any thoughts? Hi Skip, My immediate thought is to wonder why you would want to do this in C? Much of the world's momentum appears to be in the development of executing http type calls in: java c# perl tcl (aolserver!) python ruby c++ Why C? An excellent web dev book is still Philip Greenspun's book, if you can find it. It will teach you about web development in tcl and with aolserver, and a bit about dbms development in oracle as well. Caveat: There is almost no market for tcl and aolserver skills. Jerry From wfhoney at pacbell.net Mon Mar 10 17:21:10 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Bill Honeycutt) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:21:10 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 Message-ID: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> Hi, I'm thinking about using my Sparc Workstation (Solaris 8) in a small cluster of Linux machines. Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest contribution? Thanks in advance! From jan at caustic.org Mon Mar 10 17:25:33 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:25:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20030310172421.P23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Bill Honeycutt wrote: > Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what > part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest > contribution? solaris' real strong point is at being a workhorse. i'd put it in use as a fileserver, over anything else. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From jammer at weak.org Mon Mar 10 17:27:55 2003 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:27:55 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <20030310172421.P23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> References: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> <20030310172421.P23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> Message-ID: <20030311012755.GC15193@weak.org> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:25:33PM -0800, f.johan.beisser wrote: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Bill Honeycutt wrote: > > > Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what > > part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest > > contribution? > > solaris' real strong point is at being a workhorse. > > i'd put it in use as a fileserver, over anything else. Fileserver, mailserver, or a router. Pick one, but not all. :) -Jon From jan at caustic.org Mon Mar 10 17:31:01 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <20030311012755.GC15193@weak.org> Message-ID: <20030310172902.V23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jon McClintock wrote: > Fileserver, mailserver, or a router. Pick one, but not all. :) router would be better served by just about anything other than solaris on the same hardware. not that it can't handle it, but it is easier to configure on just about anything else (Linux, Net/Open BSD, etc). -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From atporter at primate.net Mon Mar 10 17:33:34 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:33:34 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> References: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20030311013334.GD15319@primate.net> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:21:10PM -0800, Bill Honeycutt wrote: > Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what > part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest > contribution? What kind of a system is it? From wfhoney at pacbell.net Mon Mar 10 18:20:52 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Wm. F. Honeycutt) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:20:52 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 References: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> <20030311013334.GD15319@primate.net> Message-ID: <3E6D4804.3010604@pacbell.net> Aaron T Porter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:21:10PM -0800, Bill Honeycutt wrote: > > >>Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what >>part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest >>contribution? > > > What kind of a system is it? > Ye Olde Ultra 10. From jan at caustic.org Mon Mar 10 18:12:35 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:12:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <3E6D4804.3010604@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20030310181155.N23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Wm. F. Honeycutt wrote: > Ye Olde Ultra 10. what CPU? -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From unixjavabob at yahoo.com Mon Mar 10 18:25:50 2003 From: unixjavabob at yahoo.com (Bob Read) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:25:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] source code obfuscators Message-ID: <20030311022550.16418.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Anyone out there have any experience with source code obfuscators in any language? There are a few on freshmeat.net that look good, such as POBS (for perl): http://freshmeat.net/projects/pobs/ The reason I'm asking is I'd really like to let other people recompile my C, perl, java source code...but I don't want them to be able to see my source code. Thanks, Bob r. ===== ----------------------------------------- Bob Read Exit Code Incorporated cell (510)-703-1634 unixjavabob at yahoo.com ----------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From atporter at primate.net Mon Mar 10 18:49:58 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:49:58 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 In-Reply-To: <20030310181155.N23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> References: <3E6D4804.3010604@pacbell.net> <20030310181155.N23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> Message-ID: <20030311024958.GE15319@primate.net> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:12:35PM -0800, f.johan.beisser wrote: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Wm. F. Honeycutt wrote: > > > Ye Olde Ultra 10. > > what CPU? Should be a Sparc IIi or IIe. 64bit with a tiny cache. Probably 300mhz too. Not a bad MySQL/PgSQL system... might as well use the fast/wide memory bus for something. From wfhoney at pacbell.net Mon Mar 10 19:15:47 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Wm. F. Honeycutt) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:15:47 -0800 Subject: [buug] A place for Solaris 8 References: <3E6D3A06.3090503@pacbell.net> <20030311013334.GD15319@primate.net> Message-ID: <3E6D54E3.8090209@pacbell.net> Aaron T Porter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:21:10PM -0800, Bill Honeycutt wrote: > > >>Anyone care to offer an opinion regarding where Sun 'shines'...i.e. what >>part of a network would a single Solaris 8 machine make the strongest >>contribution? > > > What kind of a system is it? Sorry...needed to check the specs: Ultar 10 UPA/PCI UltraSparc-IIi 300Mhz 128 MB 60ns memory From jan at caustic.org Mon Mar 10 19:49:04 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:49:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] source code obfuscators In-Reply-To: <20030311022550.16418.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030310194706.W23335-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Bob Read wrote: > Hi, > Anyone out there have any experience with source > code obfuscators in any language? they all suck. simply put, reverse engineering code from obfuscated code isn't nearly as difficult as simply reading it in the first place. strip out the comments, that'll confuse enough people. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From jammer at weak.org Mon Mar 10 21:12:14 2003 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:12:14 -0800 Subject: [buug] source code obfuscators In-Reply-To: <20030311022550.16418.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030311022550.16418.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030311051214.GA28397@weak.org> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:25:50PM -0800, Bob Read wrote: > Hi, > Anyone out there have any experience with source > code obfuscators in any language? > There are a few on freshmeat.net that look good, > such as POBS (for perl): > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/pobs/ > > The reason I'm asking is I'd really like to let > other people recompile my C, perl, java source > code...but I don't want them to be able to see my > source code. Anything that is done automatically, can be quickly and easily undone automatically. This is especially true of the scripted languages like perl and Java. Sure, it'll deter casual investigators, but it will also hinder them in reporting bugs to you... -Jon From brian at planetshwoop.com Tue Mar 11 05:44:37 2003 From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:44:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: [buug] source code obfuscators In-Reply-To: <20030311051214.GA28397@weak.org> References: <20030311022550.16418.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <20030311051214.GA28397@weak.org> Message-ID: <51665.4.17.250.5.1047390277.squirrel@www.planetshwoop.com> Jon McClintock said: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 06:25:50PM -0800, Bob Read wrote: >> Hi, >> Anyone out there have any experience with source >> code obfuscators in any language? >> There are a few on freshmeat.net that look good, >> such as POBS (for perl): >> >> http://freshmeat.net/projects/pobs/ >> >> The reason I'm asking is I'd really like to let >> other people recompile my C, perl, java source >> code...but I don't want them to be able to see my >> source code. > > Anything that is done automatically, can be quickly and easily undone > automatically. This is especially true of the scripted languages like > perl and Java. You're all familiar with the classis essay "How to write unmaintainable code", right? http://www.mindprod.com/unmain.html brian -- Brian Sobolak http://www.planetshwoop.com/ From jammer at weak.org Wed Mar 12 16:31:18 2003 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:31:18 -0800 Subject: [buug] Sun wants to watch you work Message-ID: <20030313003118.GC1332@weak.org> Anyone interested in making a copule hundred bucks? http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/sfc/etc/9377630.html -Jon From itz at speakeasy.org Thu Mar 13 14:46:33 2003 From: itz at speakeasy.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: 13 Mar 2003 14:46:33 -0800 Subject: [buug] another stupid hack Message-ID: <86hea651h2.fsf@kronstadt.homeunix.net> Just finished a dumb preprocessor for ipchains scripts. I am not sure if it's worth uploading to CPAN, your opinion is welcome. It can be found at http://www.speakeasy.net/~itz/hacks/Gen.pm and you use it like this (real addresses obliterated): #! /usr/bin/perl -w use IPChains::Gen; $private_10_0_0_0_8 = '10.0.0.0/8'; $private_172_16_0_0_12 = '172.16.0.0/12'; $private_192_168_0_0_16 = '192.168.0.0/16'; $multicast = '224.0.0.0/3'; $broadcast = '255.0.0.0/8'; @reserved = ( $private_10_0_0_0_8, $private_172_16_0_0_12, $private_192_168_0_0_16, $multicast, $broadcast ); @scanners = ( 'x.y.z.w/32', 'a.b.c.d/32', ); $local_net_broadcast = 'x.y.z.0/32'; $local_broadcast = 'x.y.z.255/32'; @broadcast = ( $local_net_broadcast, $local_broadcast ); @dns = ( 'ns1', 'ns2' ); @ntp = ( 'ntp1', 'ntp2', 'ntp3' ); $unpriv_port = '1024:65535'; $speakeasy = 'a.b.c.d/26'; %input = ( policy => 'DENY', label => 'input', rules => [{ interface => 'eth1', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { interface => 'eth0', dest => 'kronstadt', label => 'scanners', sources => \@scanners, log => 1, target => 'DENY' }, { interface => 'eth0', label => 'reserved', sources => \@reserved, log => 1, target => 'DENY' }, { source => 'localhost', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { source => 'kronstadt', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { interface => 'eth0', not_source => 'kronstadt', proto => 'icmp', label => 'icmp', rules => [{ type => 'echo-request', dests => \@broadcast, log => 1, target => 'DENY' }, { type => 'redirect', dest => 'kronstadt', log => 1, target => 'DENY' }, { frag => 1, log => 1, target => 'DENY' }]}, { proto => 'icmp', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { sources => \@dns, sport => 'domain', dport => $unpriv_port, proto => 'udp', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { sources => \@ntp, sport => 'ntp', dport => 'ntp', proto => 'udp', label => 'ntp', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { dports => [ 'talk', 'ntalk' ], proto => 'udp', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { proto => 'tcp', syn => 1, log => 1, target => 'NONE' }, { proto => 'tcp', syn => 0, target => 'ACCEPT' }, { source => $speakeasy, proto => 'tcp', dport => 'smtp', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { proto => 'tcp', dport => 'ssh', target => 'ACCEPT' }, { proto => 'tcp', dport => 'auth', target => 'ACCEPT' }, ] ); %output = ( policy => 'ACCEPT', label => 'output', rules => [{ not_source => 'kronstadt', interface => 'eth0', target => 'REJECT' }] ); &canonicalize_chain(\%input); &print_chain(\%input); &canonicalize_chain(\%output); &print_chain(\%output); -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. if (sizeof(signed) > sizeof(unsigned) + 4) { delete this; } GPG: 433BA087 9C0F 194F 203A 63F7 B1B8 6E5A 8CA3 27DB 433B A087 From wfhoney at pacbell.net Thu Mar 13 19:47:05 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Wm. F. Honeycutt) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:47:05 -0800 Subject: [buug] Broken link - Croquet Message-ID: <3E7150B9.30003@pacbell.net> Hi, Poking around the opencroquet site, I found that I couldn't get the zip file from: http://www.opencroquet.org/downloads/Croquet.zip Anyone have the file or could someone suggest a mirror? Thx in adv! Bill From wfhoney at pacbell.net Fri Mar 14 09:22:51 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Bill Honeycutt) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:22:51 -0800 Subject: [buug] Broken link - Croquet In-Reply-To: <3E7150B9.30003@pacbell.net> References: <3E7150B9.30003@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <3E720FEB.7070408@pacbell.net> Wm. F. Honeycutt wrote: > Hi, > > Poking around the opencroquet site, I found that I couldn't get the zip > file from: > > http://www.opencroquet.org/downloads/Croquet.zip > > Anyone have the file or could someone suggest a mirror? I'm going to answer my own question here :-/ Seems they took the link down because of the reference in Slashdot... http://mail.opencroquet.org/pipermail/croquet-user/2003-March/000012.html If anyone is using Squeak and/or Croquet, let me know. Thanks! From unixjavabob at yahoo.com Fri Mar 14 17:17:38 2003 From: unixjavabob at yahoo.com (Bob Read) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:17:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] how to show iowait per process and DUNE Message-ID: <20030315011738.42196.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Does anyone have/know of a tool to show iowait per process (either as % or as numeric) on any *nix? Also, there is ANOTHER Dune mini-series on the sci fi channel this Sunday, featuring Susan Sarandon as Paul Atreides. Bob R. ===== ----------------------------------------- Bob Read Exit Code Incorporated cell (510)-703-1634 unixjavabob at yahoo.com ----------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com From nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Fri Mar 14 17:26:23 2003 From: nthomas at cise.ufl.edu (N. Thomas) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 20:26:23 -0500 Subject: [buug] Re: DUNE -- correction In-Reply-To: <20030315011738.42196.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030315011738.42196.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030315012623.GA2566@cise.ufl.edu> * Bob Read [2003-03-14 17:17:38 -0800]: > Also, there is ANOTHER Dune mini-series on the sci fi channel this > Sunday, featuring Susan Sarandon as Paul Atreides. Sarandon plays Princess Wensicia. thomas -- N. Thomas nthomas at cise.ufl.edu Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From billoomal at yahoo.com Mon Mar 17 11:01:49 2003 From: billoomal at yahoo.com (HD) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:01:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] Creator 3D connector Message-ID: <20030317190149.97243.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I need to connect my Ultra 10 with a creator 3D card to a standard SVGA monitor with HD15 connector. What is the adapter I need and where is a good place to hunt? Thanks, HD __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com From atporter at primate.net Mon Mar 17 11:08:14 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:08:14 -0800 Subject: [buug] Creator 3D connector In-Reply-To: <20030317190149.97243.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030317190149.97243.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030317190813.GC12967@primate.net> On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:01:49AM -0800, HD wrote: > Hi, > I need to connect my Ultra 10 with a creator 3D card > to a standard SVGA monitor with HD15 connector. What > is the adapter I need and where is a good place to > hunt? This is the cheapest hit returned for a search of "sun monitor adapter" on shopping.yahoo.com http://shop.store.yahoo.com/a2zcables/q71.html From atporter at primate.net Mon Mar 17 11:13:00 2003 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:13:00 -0800 Subject: [buug] Creator 3D connector In-Reply-To: <20030317190149.97243.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030317190149.97243.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030317191300.GD12967@primate.net> On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:01:49AM -0800, HD wrote: > I need to connect my Ultra 10 with a creator 3D card > to a standard SVGA monitor with HD15 connector. What > is the adapter I need and where is a good place to > hunt? Also, these guys down in Milpitas. I've purchased from them before, with very good results. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cableclub/sunmicsupvga.html From billoomal at yahoo.com Tue Mar 18 07:56:54 2003 From: billoomal at yahoo.com (HD) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 07:56:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] Creator 3D connector In-Reply-To: <20030317190813.GC12967@primate.net> Message-ID: <20030318155654.7436.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Aaron Thanks a lot. Ordered it from the link you sent me. Cheers! HD --- Aaron T Porter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:01:49AM -0800, HD wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to connect my Ultra 10 with a creator 3D > card > > to a standard SVGA monitor with HD15 connector. > What > > is the adapter I need and where is a good place to > > hunt? > > > This is the cheapest hit returned for a search of > "sun monitor > adapter" on shopping.yahoo.com > > http://shop.store.yahoo.com/a2zcables/q71.html __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com From jdennis_2001 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 18 22:07:54 2003 From: jdennis_2001 at yahoo.com (jason dennis) Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:07:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] New FreeBSD user Message-ID: <20030319060754.20171.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com> I'm new to FreeBSD and I think I have screwed myself already. I edited the /etc/rc.conf file to turn off IPv6. When I edited it I left out one of the quotes " and now when Freebsd gets to the init part of booting it comes back with unspecified quote error. It lets me continue to boot, but it want let me run vi or any other text editing programs or commands to edit the /etc/rc.conf, I think this has something to do with the way the /etc/rc file is parsed at bootup, probably because the rc.conf file is called at the top then it stops and doesn't load anything else. Can anyone help me. Thanks, Newbie From jan at caustic.org Wed Mar 19 08:00:28 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 08:00:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] New FreeBSD user In-Reply-To: <20030319060754.20171.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20030319075706.W613-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, jason dennis wrote: > I'm new to FreeBSD and I think I have screwed myself > already. welcome to BSD. [edited down] > doesn't load anything else. Can anyone help me. at the boot prompt, where it has the countdown for final boot. hit the space bar. you should get an "ok" prompt. there, type "boot -s" and boot to single user mode. from there, mount the filesystems with "mount -a" edit your rc.conf to taste. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From billoomal at yahoo.com Fri Mar 21 13:42:11 2003 From: billoomal at yahoo.com (HD) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] ffb2+ with non-sun monitor Message-ID: <20030321214211.30197.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, My adventures in trying to connect a non-sun monitor to an ultra 60 (Solaris 9) continue. I got the requisite 13w3 to vga convertor. I tried connecting a Phillips 107E, Viewsonic e773 and Viewsonic e790B to the workstation with no luck. I have access to shell thru the serial port. I tried changing the resolutions using ffbconfig but the currect resolution remains unchanged. Here is the output from 'ffbconfig -prconf' --- Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/ffb0 --- Type: double-buffered FFB2+ with Z-buffer Board: rev 2 (Vertical) PROM Information: @(#)ffb2p.fth 2.9 98/07/14 FBC: version 0x3241906d DAC: Brooktree 9070, version 1 (Pac2) 3DRAM: Mitsubishi 130a, version 1 EDID Data: Not Available Monitor Sense ID: 7 (Unknown monitor type, defaulting to Sun 19" monitor) Monitor possible resolution: 1152x900x66 Current resolution setting: 640x480x60 Any help would be appreciated. Cheers! HD __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com From john at jjdev.com Sat Mar 22 14:44:48 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:44:48 -0800 Subject: [buug] primary groups Message-ID: <20030322224448.GB422@stang.jjdev.com> Why are there primary groups in UNIX? why not just have users and groups? users can be added groups and not need a primary group. From jan at caustic.org Sat Mar 22 14:59:30 2003 From: jan at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:59:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [buug] primary groups In-Reply-To: <20030322224448.GB422@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030322144845.J613-100000@pogo.caustic.org> On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, johnd wrote: > Why are there primary groups in UNIX? the easiest solution to this is to look at how you organise work groups. > why not just have users and groups? that would be much more limiting. > users can be added groups and not need a primary group. you can implement this buy creating "user" groups. for example: my user is "jan", with my primary group "jan". i'm a member of group(s): wheel, and operator. this allows for some decent fine tuning of permissions and directories. -------/ f. johan beisser /--------------------------------------+ http://caustic.org/~jan jan at caustic.org "Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends." -- Tom Waits From jammer at weak.org Sat Mar 22 16:13:19 2003 From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:13:19 -0800 Subject: [buug] primary groups In-Reply-To: <20030322224448.GB422@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030322224448.GB422@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030323001319.GF8510@weak.org> On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 02:44:48PM -0800, johnd wrote: > Why are there primary groups in UNIX? > > why not just have users and groups? > > users can be added groups and not need a primary group. The primary group is used to specify which gid is used when a user creates a file. That's the one good use I can think of off the top of my head... -Jon From john at jjdev.com Sat Mar 22 16:14:42 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (John de la Garza) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 16:14:42 -0800 Subject: [buug] primary groups In-Reply-To: <20030323001319.GF8510@weak.org> Message-ID: <71B1ECB0-5CC4-11D7-89C9-000393CB11D4@jjdev.com> that is exactly what I was looking for... thanks! On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Jon McClintock wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2003 at 02:44:48PM -0800, johnd wrote: >> Why are there primary groups in UNIX? >> >> why not just have users and groups? >> >> users can be added groups and not need a primary group. > > The primary group is used to specify which gid is used when a user > creates a file. That's the one good use I can think of off the top of > my > head... > > -Jon From john at jjdev.com Wed Mar 26 17:28:07 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 17:28:07 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless Message-ID: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> Anyone know if TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards work under linux? From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 26 18:23:08 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:23:08 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > Anyone know if > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards > work under linux? The key to answering such questions is to find out the _chipset_. You didn't post this, presumably because you didn't have the information. If you have the card in your physical possession, you can find out the chipset using "cardctl ident". Short of that, given the make and model, one can sometimes research the chipset online. In that department, there's a word you omitted: "Dell". Suggestion: Make it easy for other people to help you. You'll get much better results. Anyhow: I attempted to research the chipset question using the provided information (what you posted plus the fact that it's a Dell brand), and came up dry. You could try asking Dell Computer -- in which case, prepare yourself to ask _many_ people before finding one who actually understands your question and is prepared to answer it, and take care not to mention the term "Linux", or the phone monkey you're talking to will sigh with relief at your giving him a quick and sleazy way out, and then happily dispose of your call by saying "we don't support Linux". My SWAG (silly wild-assed guess) is that this is probably someone's (Intersil's?) brand-new chipset, whose actual identity (as opposed to Dell Marketing "branding") we'll find out about in due course, followed by the usual development of drivers via reverse-engineering. If you have ongoing interest in the question, post further (and preferably less vague) queries to: http://lists.linux-wlan.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-wlan-user . -- Cheers, Rick Moen Emacs is a decent operating system, rick at linuxmafia.com but it still lacks a good text editor. From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 26 18:36:31 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:36:31 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030327023631.GU1751@linuxmafia.com> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > Anyone know if > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards > work under linux? A post to the BAWUG "wireless" mailing list says: "Forgot to mention some Dells are/were shipping with Cisco cards in them. They disguise their relabled cards as TrueMobile so it is hard to tell which ones are Cisco." So, maybe the Aeronet driver. (Aeronet is the firm that Cisco acquired, to create its wireless division.) Want to find out for sure? Ask on the linux-wlan-user and/or BAWUG list, and maybe someone will know. -- Cheers, You can't lick the system -- but you can certainly Rick Moen give it a damned good fondling.... rick at linuxmafia.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 26 19:30:02 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:30:02 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> Quoting myself: > Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > > > Anyone know if > > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards ^^^ > > work under linux? > > The key to answering such questions is to find out the _chipset_. You > didn't post this, presumably because you didn't have the information. > If you have the card in your physical possession, you can find out the > chipset using "cardctl ident". ^^^^^^^ That utility would of course be useful only with PCMCIA cards. For PCI ones, the equivalent is lspci. But you could alternatively just yank the card out for a moment and look at what's written on the card's largest chip. -- Cheers, "Not using Microsoft products is like being a non-smoker Rick Moen 40 or 50 years ago: You can choose not to smoke, yourself, rick at linuxmafia.com but it's hard to avoid second-hand smoke." -- M. Tiemann From john at jjdev.com Wed Mar 26 19:58:26 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:58:26 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030327035826.GA5623@stang.jjdev.com> On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:30:02PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting myself: > > Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > > > > > Anyone know if > > > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards > ^^^ > > > work under linux? > > > > The key to answering such questions is to find out the _chipset_. You > > didn't post this, presumably because you didn't have the information. > > If you have the card in your physical possession, you can find out the > > chipset using "cardctl ident". > ^^^^^^^ > > That utility would of course be useful only with PCMCIA cards. For PCI > ones, the equivalent is lspci. > > But you could alternatively just yank the card out for a moment and look > at what's written on the card's largest chip. Don't have it yet. I am considering buying a Dell and want to make sure it is going to be a good linux laptop. From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Mar 26 20:18:14 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:18:14 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327035826.GA5623@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> <20030327035826.GA5623@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030327041814.GY1751@linuxmafia.com> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > Don't have it yet. I am considering buying a Dell and want to make sure > it is going to be a good linux laptop. Yeah, well, good luck. Dell is infamous for playing games with rebranding of other people's components, and concealing the information from the public. (They're trying to sell people on the notion that you don't need to know what's in the box; you supposedly need only know that it's a Dell.) Laptops are, in general, easily the most problematic category of x86 machines for *ixes. The main recommended strategy is to AVOID buying brand-new models of anything, and stick to ones that have been out long enough to have known-good Linux/*BSD support for all of their chipsets. Ergo, when I wanted to buy a laptop, I researched which ones were very well tested, and then found one used, via eBay. See also: http://www.linux-laptop.net/ http://tuxmobil.org/ -- Cheers, "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first Rick Moen woman she meets, and then teams up with three complete strangers rick at linuxmafia.com to kill again." -- Rick Polito's That TV Guy column, describing the movie _The Wizard of Oz_ From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 27 00:57:17 2003 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:57:17 +0000 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> (Rick Moen's message of "Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:30:02 -0800") References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <6u1y0tdw5u.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Rick Moen quotation: > Quoting myself: >> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): >> >> > Anyone know if >> > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards > ^^^ >> > work under linux? >> >> The key to answering such questions is to find out the _chipset_. You >> didn't post this, presumably because you didn't have the information. >> If you have the card in your physical possession, you can find out the >> chipset using "cardctl ident". > ^^^^^^^ > > That utility would of course be useful only with PCMCIA cards. For PCI > ones, the equivalent is lspci. MiniPCI is, at least in my Dell Inspiron 4100, bridged over CardBus, so the PCMCIA stuff is needed to drive it. -- Sean Neakums - From sneakums at zork.net Thu Mar 27 01:10:45 2003 From: sneakums at zork.net (Sean Neakums) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:10:45 +0000 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <6u1y0tdw5u.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Thu, 27 Mar 2003 08:57:17 +0000") References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> <6u1y0tdw5u.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <6uy931cgyy.fsf@zork.zork.net> commence Sean Neakums quotation: > commence Rick Moen quotation: > >> Quoting myself: >>> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): >>> >>> > Anyone know if >>> > TrueMobile 1300 Internal MiniPCI Cards >> ^^^ >>> > work under linux? >>> >>> The key to answering such questions is to find out the _chipset_. You >>> didn't post this, presumably because you didn't have the information. >>> If you have the card in your physical possession, you can find out the >>> chipset using "cardctl ident". >> ^^^^^^^ >> >> That utility would of course be useful only with PCMCIA cards. For PCI >> ones, the equivalent is lspci. > > MiniPCI is, at least in my Dell Inspiron 4100, bridged over CardBus, > so the PCMCIA stuff is needed to drive it. [revox(~)] sudo cardctl ident Socket 0: no product info available Socket 1: no product info available Socket 2: product info: "Dell", "TrueMobile 1150 Series PC Card", "Version 01.01", "" manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 function: 6 (network) -- Sean Neakums - From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 27 01:40:42 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:40:42 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <6uy931cgyy.fsf@zork.zork.net> References: <20030327012807.GB5483@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327022308.GT1751@linuxmafia.com> <20030327033002.GA17997@linuxmafia.com> <6u1y0tdw5u.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6uy931cgyy.fsf@zork.zork.net> Message-ID: <20030327094042.GC1751@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Sean Neakums (sneakums at zork.net): > Socket 2: > product info: "Dell", "TrueMobile 1150 Series PC Card", "Version > 01.01", "" > manfid: 0x0156, 0x0002 > function: 6 (network) Hah! Well, so much for that idea. ;-> -- Cheers, The shortest distance between two puns is a straightline. Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com From john at jjdev.com Thu Mar 27 01:35:00 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (John de la Garza) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:35:00 -0800 Subject: [buug] wireless In-Reply-To: <20030327041814.GY1751@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <6150E9AD-6037-11D7-A34B-000393CB11D4@jjdev.com> Maybe I should just run linux on my powerbook... On Wednesday, March 26, 2003, at 08:18 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > >> Don't have it yet. I am considering buying a Dell and want to make >> sure >> it is going to be a good linux laptop. > > Yeah, well, good luck. > > Dell is infamous for playing games with rebranding of other people's > components, and concealing the information from the public. (They're > trying to sell people on the notion that you don't need to know what's > in the box; you supposedly need only know that it's a Dell.) > > Laptops are, in general, easily the most problematic category of x86 > machines for *ixes. The main recommended strategy is to AVOID buying > brand-new models of anything, and stick to ones that have been out long > enough to have known-good Linux/*BSD support for all of their chipsets. > Ergo, when I wanted to buy a laptop, I researched which ones were very > well tested, and then found one used, via eBay. > > See also: > http://www.linux-laptop.net/ > http://tuxmobil.org/ > > -- > Cheers, "Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills > the first > Rick Moen woman she meets, and then teams up with three complete > strangers > rick at linuxmafia.com to kill again." -- Rick Polito's That TV > Guy column, > describing the movie _The Wizard of Oz_ > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug From john at jjdev.com Thu Mar 27 13:25:04 2003 From: john at jjdev.com (johnd) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:25:04 -0800 Subject: [buug] mutt Message-ID: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> here's my problem... I run imapd (the one that comes with slackware) and it makes a entry to all the mail boxes like this: Mail System Internal Data and if you read the mail it says: This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. so everytime I go to send a mail mutt asks me if I want to resume this draft... has anyone had and solved this problem? From rick at linuxmafia.com Thu Mar 27 13:39:56 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 13:39:56 -0800 Subject: [buug] mutt In-Reply-To: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030327213956.GB17011@linuxmafia.com> Quoting johnd (john at jjdev.com): > here's my problem... > > I run imapd (the one that comes with slackware) and it makes a entry to all > the mail boxes like this: > > Mail System Internal Data > > and if you read the mail it says: > > > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. Hey, I remember that message -- from the last time I adminned Slackware and early Red Hat. Maybe Cyrus imapd doesn't create it? -- Cheers, A host is a host, from coast to coast. Rick Moen And nobody talks to a host that's close, rick at linuxmafia.com Unless the host that isn't close is busy, hung, or dead. From evan at theunixman.com Thu Mar 27 14:12:12 2003 From: evan at theunixman.com (Evan Cofsky) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:12:12 -0800 Subject: [buug] mutt In-Reply-To: <20030327213956.GB17011@linuxmafia.com> References: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> <20030327213956.GB17011@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030327221212.GE21870@isengard.arda.theunixman.com> > Hey, I remember that message -- from the last time I adminned Slackware > and early Red Hat. Maybe Cyrus imapd doesn't create it? It's a feature of the UW-IMAPd system. It seems to use an additional IMAP message for internal purposes, since it adheres closely to one of the mail spool standards. Cyrus doesn't need this, since it has its own mail box format. -- The UNIX Man From ted at parvu.net Thu Mar 27 14:28:57 2003 From: ted at parvu.net (Ted Parvu) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:28:57 -0800 Subject: [buug] mutt In-Reply-To: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> References: <20030327212504.GA6685@stang.jjdev.com> Message-ID: <20030327222857.GE22895@parvu.net> On Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 01:25:04PM -0800, johnd wrote: > so everytime I go to send a mail mutt asks me if I want to resume this > draft... > > has anyone had and solved this problem? Seems like this used to happen to me but I don't recall seeing it since I switched to the "maildir" format. Ted -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- WAR IS PEACE FREEDOM IS SLAVERY IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH From wfhoney at pacbell.net Fri Mar 28 09:33:27 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Bill Honeycutt) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:33:27 -0800 Subject: [buug] AFS vs NFS Message-ID: <3E848767.2000705@pacbell.net> Hi, Could someone explain the relative merits (or demerits) of using AFS as opposed to NFS? Where would AFS best applied in a practical sense? Thanks in advance!!! Bill ---- "Dubya" - we need a bit more clorine in the gene pool ---- From rick at linuxmafia.com Fri Mar 28 10:11:19 2003 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:11:19 -0800 Subject: [buug] AFS vs NFS In-Reply-To: <3E848767.2000705@pacbell.net> References: <3E848767.2000705@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <20030328181119.GV17011@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Bill Honeycutt (wfhoney at pacbell.net): > Could someone explain the relative merits (or demerits) of using AFS as > opposed to NFS? AFS has strong-crypto authentication and encryption, is a slow, complex, heavy-weight protocol, and is a bear to set up and administer. Coda attempted to sort of clone that, but itself proved too ponderous, so project leader Peter Braam jumped ship and is slowly improving a from-scratch replacement, InterMezzo. NFS has No Friggin' Security, is relatively lightweight and simple, and is no real problem to set up and administer. > Where would AFS best applied in a practical sense? The classic deployment would be a college environment: People both on and off campus can use AFS/Kerberos to get to centrally stored files on the AFS "cells". Thanks to IBM/Transarc open-sourcing the Transarc AFS implementation under the IBM Public Licence as "OpenAFS", AFS can now be done using all open-source software. -- Cheers, "My file system's got no nodes!" Rick Moen "How does it shell?" rick at linuxmafia.com From wfhoney at pacbell.net Fri Mar 28 10:26:46 2003 From: wfhoney at pacbell.net (Bill Honeycutt) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:26:46 -0800 Subject: [buug] AFS vs NFS In-Reply-To: <20030328181119.GV17011@linuxmafia.com> References: <3E848767.2000705@pacbell.net> <20030328181119.GV17011@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <3E8493E6.2020103@pacbell.net> Thanks, Rick! Exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Bill Honeycutt (wfhoney at pacbell.net): > > >>Could someone explain the relative merits (or demerits) of using AFS as >>opposed to NFS? > > > AFS has strong-crypto authentication and encryption, is a slow, complex, > heavy-weight protocol, and is a bear to set up and administer. Coda > attempted to sort of clone that, but itself proved too ponderous, so > project leader Peter Braam jumped ship and is slowly improving a > from-scratch replacement, InterMezzo. > > NFS has No Friggin' Security, is relatively lightweight and simple, and > is no real problem to set up and administer. > > >>Where would AFS best applied in a practical sense? > > > The classic deployment would be a college environment: People both on > and off campus can use AFS/Kerberos to get to centrally stored files on > the AFS "cells". > > Thanks to IBM/Transarc open-sourcing the Transarc AFS implementation > under the IBM Public Licence as "OpenAFS", AFS can now be done using all > open-source software. > From nkj at iaminsane.com Fri Mar 28 10:44:10 2003 From: nkj at iaminsane.com (Nick Jennings) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:44:10 -0800 Subject: [buug] AFS vs NFS In-Reply-To: <20030328181119.GV17011@linuxmafia.com> References: <3E848767.2000705@pacbell.net> <20030328181119.GV17011@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20030328184410.GD9525@iaminsane.com> On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:11:19AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > AFS has strong-crypto authentication and encryption, is a slow, complex, > heavy-weight protocol, and is a bear to set up and administer. Coda > attempted to sort of clone that, but itself proved too ponderous, so > project leader Peter Braam jumped ship and is slowly improving a > from-scratch replacement, InterMezzo. Just FYI. InterMezzo is not the same type of file-serving system as NFS. It is actually a synchronized file-system, so the space allocation must exist on both machines, not just one. InterMezzo has a good design behind it. I worked with Peter several years ago on InterMezzo and I was very impressed with it's design, though not so much with it's implementation. However since then I hear allot of work has been done cleaning that aspect up. I haven't used it myself in over a year. - Nick