From togo at of.net  Tue Feb  1 09:14:53 2005
From: togo at of.net (Tony Godshall)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:14:53 -0800
Subject: [buug] mysterious windowmaker option
In-Reply-To: <87pszkj4r3.fsf@buug.org>
References: <87k6pvia7r.fsf@buug.org> <6uoef54ll7.fsf@zork.zork.net>
	<87pszkj4r3.fsf@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20050201171453.GA12434@private>

According to Ian Zimmerman,
> 
> Ian> What does the "Windoze style cycling" option in WPrefs or
> Ian> Wmakerconf actually do?  I have not observed any difference in
> Ian> Alt+Tab behavior with it on/off, either in WindowMaker 0.80 or 1.x.
> 
> Sean> I think "Windows-style" is when the first Alt-Tab takes you to the
> Sean> last-selected window, not the next in the cycle order.  After the
> Sean> first tap of Tab, they behave the same, following the cycle order.
> 
> I seldom have more than 2 windows on the same workspace; with just 2,
> would the behavior be the same?

I would think so.  Most-recently-used and order-opened
differ only for n > 2.



From rvmss at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 23:24:00 2005
From: rvmss at yahoo.com (Rohan Mendonca)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 23:24:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [buug] Freebsd 5.3 and internet access problems.
In-Reply-To: <41FD8F89.4060207@planetshwoop.com>
Message-ID: <20050206072400.94983.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Brian,

Sorry for the delay in replying.

I made the following changes based on your
suggestions:

1.

/etc/resolv.conf 

RM# cat resolv.conf
nameserver      192.168.0.1

what does cat resolv.com do?
Is the nameserver the same as the router?

2.

 /etc/rc.conf

defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.0.153  netmask
255.255.255.0"

My /etc/rc.conf already had the ethernet card in it.
I just added the defaultrouter line.
What is the host name? I did not add that.

Anyway,after these changes, I just did a reboot and
everything seems to work.
I can connect to the internet.

I really appreciate your help. This really helps me
feel confident that I can break out of the cukoo's
nest (windows) without being strangled.

I am not sure which of the changes helped. I am glad
it did, but would like to know, what was the problem.

Thanks again.

You guys will most likely hear from me again as I
slowly move to freebsd.

Rohan Mendonca




--- Brian Sobolak <brian at planetshwoop.com> wrote:

> Rohan Mendonca wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am new to freebsd. I want to move from windows
> to
> > freebsd.
> 
> Sweet!
> 
> > I have just installed 5.3 on my computer.
> > I am running this computer behind a router which
> is
> > connected to a cable modem. The router has dhcp
> > disabled and I assign ip addresses to all the
> > computers attached to it. 
> > I managed to configure the ethernet card with a
> static
> > ip.
> > I am able to ping the card. I can also ping the
> > router.
> > I can ping the freebsd computer from a windows
> > computer on the network.
> > 
> > I have 2 problems.
> > 
> > 1. I cannot access the internet using opera in
> > xwindows.
> > It say's "hosts not found" for any web site even
> > though 
> > I can ping the router, the ethernet card.
> > what am I doing wrong?
> > I do not think I have icfw enabled.
> > Please help!
> 
> Have you checked to see that DNS is working
> properly?  If you type 'ping 
> weak.org', do you get an IP address or do you just
> get the same errors 
> as above?
> 
> Generally speaking there are two ways to resolve
> your problems:
> 
> 1.  As root, type
> 
> /stand/sysinstall
> 
> This is the configuration manager not unlike the
> installation of 
> FreeBSD.  To configure networking, try Configure ->
> Networking -> 
> Interfaces.
> 
> You should have a list of the ethernet cards on your
> system.  Pick the 
> one you want to configure, and make sure that you
> enter all of the 
> relevant information about your network
> configuration, esp. your DNS server.
> 
> That should do it.  After exiting, try again - it
> should work if the 
> configuration is correct.
> 
> 2.  Check for the files.
> 
> /etc/resolv.conf contains where the DNS server is
> listed.  Mine is 
> configured as:
> 
> mymagenta# cat resolv.conf
> nameserver      206.141.251.2
> 
> If you want to ensure that the interface (your
> network card) is 
> configured at run time, you can check /etc/rc.conf
> 
> The relevant lines are:
> 
> defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
> hostname="YOUR.HOSTNAME.HERE"  #fill in with the
> real hostname
> ifconfig_sis0="inet 192.168.0.4  netmask
> 255.255.255.0"
> 
> The bit above - ifconfig_sis0 - should match your
> card's driver.  If 
> this is configured, then the card should start up at
> boot.
> 
> Generally speaking it's better to use
> /stand/sysinstall (esp. if you're 
> new) as it makes sure all the appropriate pieces are
> done correctly; it 
> leaves less room for typos.
> 
> > 2. I seem to need to enable the ethernet card
> > everytime I logon/restart the computer. How do I
> set
> > it up so that it is enabled permanently.
> > 
> 
> See above....
> 
> If this doesn't help, then attach the contents of
> dmesg (type 'dmesg > 
> filename') and uname -a, which is pretty standard
> for BSD questions on 
> BSD mailing lists.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> brian
> 
> 



		
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From brian at planetshwoop.com  Sat Feb  5 23:54:21 2005
From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 01:54:21 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [buug] Freebsd 5.3 and internet access problems.
In-Reply-To: <20050206072400.94983.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050206072400.94983.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502060150400.4697@mail>



On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Rohan Mendonca wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> /etc/resolv.conf
>
> RM# cat resolv.conf
> nameserver      192.168.0.1
>
> what does cat resolv.com do?
> Is the nameserver the same as the router?

The nameserver is rarely the same as the router, but it depends on your 
configuration.  'cat resolv.conf' displays the contents of the file 
resolv.conf.  resolv.conf is the file that tells your computer which 
nameserver to use.


>
> 2.
>
> /etc/rc.conf
>
> defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
> ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.0.153  netmask
> 255.255.255.0"
>
> My /etc/rc.conf already had the ethernet card in it.
> I just added the defaultrouter line.
> What is the host name? I did not add that.

the hostname is the name of the computer.  Unless you have registered your 
computer with an actual domain (it sounds like you haven't), then you 
probably don't *have* to have that line.

brian



From mp at rawbw.com  Sun Feb  6 16:40:09 2005
From: mp at rawbw.com (Michael Paoli)
Date: Sun,  6 Feb 2005 16:40:09 -0800
Subject: [buug] Re: The nameserver is ...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502060150400.4697@mail>
References: <20050206072400.94983.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0502060150400.4697@mail>
Message-ID: <1107736809.4206b8e946a4c@webmail.rawbw.com>

Quoting Brian Sobolak:

> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Rohan Mendonca wrote:
> > Is the nameserver the same as the router?
> The nameserver is rarely the same as the router, but it depends on your 
> configuration.

I don't think I'd (quite) say rarely.  In larger infrastructures, it tends
to be more common for router(s) and nameserver(s) to be distinct, but for
smaller infrastuctures - which may often be quite numerous - it is not all
that uncommon for nameserver and router to be one-in-the-same.  On my home
RFC1918 ("private") network, the router and nameserver IP and system are
one-in-the-same.  For many all-in-one solution type devices (NAT + DHCP
server + hub/switch + DSL/cable Ethernet bridge ("modem")) I'd think it
relatively common that they're one-in-the same (at least by IP address on
the RFC1918 side of things).  Of course this does and will vary by
configurations and specific devices (e.g. it's probably more common for
the nameserver IP to match the router IP in cases where the system/device
acts as a caching-mostly/only nameserver, or where the device/system uses NAT
to handle DNS traffic).


From brian at planetshwoop.com  Mon Feb  7 06:58:26 2005
From: brian at planetshwoop.com (Brian Sobolak)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 08:58:26 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [buug] Re: The nameserver is ...
In-Reply-To: <1107736809.4206b8e946a4c@webmail.rawbw.com>
References: <20050206072400.94983.qmail@web41129.mail.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.61.0502060150400.4697@mail>
	<1107736809.4206b8e946a4c@webmail.rawbw.com>
Message-ID: <56106.63.73.213.5.1107788306.squirrel@webmail.psys.org>


Michael Paoli said:
> Quoting Brian Sobolak:
>
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005, Rohan Mendonca wrote:
>> > Is the nameserver the same as the router?
>> The nameserver is rarely the same as the router, but it depends on your
>> configuration.
>
> I don't think I'd (quite) say rarely.  In larger infrastructures, it tends
> to be more common for router(s) and nameserver(s) to be distinct, but for
> smaller infrastuctures - which may often be quite numerous - it is not all
> that uncommon for nameserver and router to be one-in-the-same.  On my home
> RFC1918 ("private") network, the router and nameserver IP and system are
> one-in-the-same.  For many all-in-one solution type devices (NAT + DHCP
> server + hub/switch + DSL/cable Ethernet bridge ("modem")) I'd think it
> relatively common that they're one-in-the same (at least by IP address on
> the RFC1918 side of things).  Of course this does and will vary by
> configurations and specific devices (e.g. it's probably more common for
> the nameserver IP to match the router IP in cases where the system/device
> acts as a caching-mostly/only nameserver, or where the device/system uses
> NAT
> to handle DNS traffic).

You're probably right, and I'm quite sure you know a lot more about
standard network configs and DNS than I do.

However, I just wanted to illustrate that they logically aren't the same
thing.  While they might run on the same machine/appliance, a router and a
nameserver perform very distinctly different things.

brian


--
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http://www.planetshwoop.com/


From unixjavabob at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  7 12:39:39 2005
From: unixjavabob at yahoo.com (Bob Read)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 12:39:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [buug] I love Gallery -and- recommendations for CUSeeMe or
	alternative
Message-ID: <20050207203940.8173.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com>

Hello BUUG,

1)  I really, really miss going to BUUG meetings, but
my San Jose lifestyle makes it too difficult to get to
Berkeley.  *sigh*.  One of these days, maybe I'll make
a special trip.

2)  I just installed Gallery 1.4.4pl5 on freeBSD and I
love it.  Mad Props for Gallery! 
http://bread.boom.net/gallery  What are you guys using
for pics/media cataloging?

3)  I want to install a video server on freeBSD so
that multiple people with webcams on their
workstations can "login" and do videoconferencing. 
Some friends have recommended CU-SeeMe, but with the
caveat "I used to use it several years ago, there's
probably something better and newer"...any
recommendations?

Thanks,
Bob r.

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From atporter at primate.net  Mon Feb  7 14:45:38 2005
From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron T Porter)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 14:45:38 -0800
Subject: [buug] I love Gallery -and- recommendations for CUSeeMe or
	alternative
In-Reply-To: <20050207203940.8173.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050207203940.8173.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050207224538.GK30784@primate.net>

On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 12:39:39PM -0800, Bob Read wrote:
> 3)  I want to install a video server on freeBSD so
> that multiple people with webcams on their
> workstations can "login" and do videoconferencing. 
> Some friends have recommended CU-SeeMe, but with the
> caveat "I used to use it several years ago, there's
> probably something better and newer"...any
> recommendations?

	Not sure about specifics, but I'd start with openh323.org


From itz at buug.org  Mon Feb  7 21:38:36 2005
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: 07 Feb 2005 21:38:36 -0800
Subject: [buug] I love Gallery -and- recommendations for CUSeeMe or
	alternative
In-Reply-To: <20050207203940.8173.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050207203940.8173.qmail@web54109.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87hdknd31f.fsf@buug.org>


Bob> Props for Gallery!  http://bread.boom.net/gallery What are you guys
Bob> using for pics/media cataloging?

gqview

gallery was one of the alternatives I looked at, I don't remember why 
I rejected it.

-- 
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a better one in Microsoft BASIC ?
Hans-Marc Olsen in comp.unix.programmer


From itz at buug.org  Mon Feb  7 21:53:18 2005
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: 07 Feb 2005 21:53:18 -0800
Subject: [buug] hide font from mozilla
Message-ID: <87d5vbd2cx.fsf@buug.org>


One of the packages I installed yesterday pulled in msttcorefonts.  When
Bitstream Vera appeared on the scene, I got used to it quickly and now I
cringe at the sight of Arial and company; unfortunately, most web pages
(even Debian pages!) seem to specify something like

#leftcol {
   float: left;
   margin: 0px;
   margin-right: 0.4em;
   padding-right: 0.5em;
   width: auto;
   background: #BBDDFF;
   padding-left: 0px;
   font-size: 0.9em;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
}

(cut and pasted from /debian.css).  So, how do I use css or some other
mechanism to prevent it from using Arial and make it default to
sans-serif, which maps to Vera thanks to (I think) fontconfig?

-- 
I wonder which is the best virus for unix and if I can write
a better one in Microsoft BASIC ?
Hans-Marc Olsen in comp.unix.programmer


From jammer at weak.org  Tue Feb  8 20:18:19 2005
From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:18:19 -0800
Subject: [buug] [todv@google.com: Sr.Unix Release Engineer(6+ yrs C++,
	Scripting, Unix Experience)]
Message-ID: <20050209041819.GC18391@weak.org>

Some of y'all may be interested in this posting...

-Jon

----- Forwarded message from Tod Vanlandingham <todv at google.com> -----

From: Tod Vanlandingham <todv at google.com>
To: jammer at weak.org
Subject:  Sr.Unix Release Engineer(6+ yrs C++, Scripting, Unix Experience)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:25:27 -0800

Jon,

 

Please let me know if you will be open to distributing the following job
posting to your BUUG members.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

Tod Vanlandingham

Recruiter

Google

(650) 623-4291

todv at google.com 

 

 

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Website: http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/eng.html   

 

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From mp at rawbw.com  Sat Feb 12 18:07:15 2005
From: mp at rawbw.com (Michael Paoli)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 18:07:15 -0800
Subject: [buug] Available: Solaris 2.6 Hardware 5/98 SPARC CD-ROMs
Message-ID: <1108260435.420eb6530856e@webmail.rawbw.com>

I've got a set of
Solaris 2.6 Hardware 5/98 SPARC CD-ROMs
(and some related CD-ROMs that I believe were shipped with it at the time)
to give away.

If you're interested, just drop me a note, and optionally include a
short note about why you're interested in them.

I'll likely make it to the BUUG meeting 2005-02-17 and have them with me
then and there.

Anyone that can make reasonable arrangements to pick them up from me
is potentially eligible (I tend to travel between Berkeley and San Francisco
rather regularly, so other rendezvous may be possible).

If I get multiple requests prior to 2005-02-17 I'll select one I think may be
most noteworthy and can manage to get them from me.  After that, relatively
first come, first serve to any relatively reasonable request.


From nickmdf at tsoft.com  Sun Feb 13 21:21:16 2005
From: nickmdf at tsoft.com (Nick Sophinos)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:21:16 -0800
Subject: [buug] I would like to pay someone to help me with a kernel patch
Message-ID: <1108358476.1720.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hello Everyone,


I have a Dell D600 in which I have Fedora Core 3 installed.
Most everything is working but I still may need to patch the kernel in 
order to get the S3 suspend state to work, as prescribed in these
web pages

http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/#build

http://www.hep.phy.cam.ac.uk/~andersen/fedora2latitude600.html

I would need someone who has been through this (or something similar)
before to work with me for a couple of hours to get this to work.
Specifically, if the kernel needs patching, I have never done this
before.  

I would pay someone the going rate for such expertise.  We could meet at
my house, your house, or at a place like the Au Coculet.  

Is anyone available or know where I could get someone?

Thanks,

Nick Sophinos 



From mp at rawbw.com  Mon Feb 14 23:05:12 2005
From: mp at rawbw.com (Michael Paoli)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:05:12 -0800
Subject: [buug] I would like to pay someone to help me with a kernel patch
In-Reply-To: <1108358476.1720.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1108358476.1720.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1108451112.42119f28a9b71@webmail.rawbw.com>

You might also try asking around some of the local/regional LINUX users
groups, as what you're looking at is (relatively) LINUX specific.

Though not exactly 100% up-to-date, this URL has a pretty good list
of (mostly) regional LINUX users groups:
http://www.thelinuxsource.com/index.php?page=LUG's
You can also take about 3 or so LINUX user group name acronyms (particularly
if the group is more alive/active) and sprinkle them into a Google search
(perhaps along with LINUX or on their LINUX specialized search), and come
up with a fair number of web pages including local/regional LINUX users
groups.

If you haven't already, you might want to check into some of the
LINUX installfest events.  Though they're more geared towards doing
installs, you may want to inquire to see if they might be able to
assist you with something like this at one of the install events.

Quoting Nick Sophinos <nickmdf at tsoft.com>:

> I have a Dell D600 in which I have Fedora Core 3 installed.
> Most everything is working but I still may need to patch the kernel in 
> order to get the S3 suspend state to work, as prescribed in these
> web pages
> 
> http://www.loria.fr/~thome/d600/#build
> 
> http://www.hep.phy.cam.ac.uk/~andersen/fedora2latitude600.html
> 
> I would need someone who has been through this (or something similar)
> before to work with me for a couple of hours to get this to work.
> Specifically, if the kernel needs patching, I have never done this
> before.  
> 
> I would pay someone the going rate for such expertise.  We could meet at
> my house, your house, or at a place like the Au Coculet.  
> 
> Is anyone available or know where I could get someone?


From webmaster at hawaiidakine.com  Wed Feb 23 20:54:14 2005
From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com (webmaster at hawaiidakine.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:54:14 -1000
Subject: [buug] Loading a .tar.gz file in Debian Linux
Message-ID: <421D5DF6.7060704@hawaiidakine.com>

Hi Linux people,

I am helping a friend with a Debian install.

Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce from 
a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is "sarge". I am a FreeBSD 
person and the file structure in "sarge" is not easy to figure out. Like 
I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command line. So I 
have finally, after reading the top complaints on the Debian list, 
figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you need to have it. 
    I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
available on the apt-get.

Any help appreciated.


Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
Supporting Open Source in computing with FreeBSD 4.9
"Failure only happens when you stop trying." - Omar Periu




From togo at of.net  Thu Feb 24 01:05:31 2005
From: togo at of.net (Tony Godshall)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:05:31 -0800
Subject: [buug] Loading a .tar.gz file in Debian Linux
In-Reply-To: <421D5DF6.7060704@hawaiidakine.com>
References: <421D5DF6.7060704@hawaiidakine.com>
Message-ID: <20050224090530.GA16734@private>

According to webmaster at hawaiidakine.com,
> Hi Linux people,
> 
> I am helping a friend with a Debian install.
> 
> Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce from 
> a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is "sarge". I am a FreeBSD 
> person and the file structure in "sarge" is not easy to figure out. Like 
> I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command line. So I 
> have finally, after reading the top complaints on the Debian list, 
> figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you need to have it. 
>    I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
> available on the apt-get.
> 
> Any help appreciated.

Did you try 

apt-get install xfce=3.8.16-2

xfce 3.8.16-2 is the latests one for sarge(stable) according
to packages.debian.org.  If you are getting 4, you probably
have something wonky in /etc/apt/sources.list.  You might
want to comment out nonofficial sources and do an apt-get
update.

I mean you /can/ build it yourself but why bother?

If you must build nondebianized source, you can put the source code 
wherever you like.  I usually put it in /usr/local/src/(name).




From mmpire at hit.edu.cn  Thu Feb 24 19:15:41 2005
From: mmpire at hit.edu.cn (mmpire)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:15:41 +0800
Subject: [buug] (no subject)
Message-ID: <000a01c51ae8$494969d0$1f641aad@mmpire>

 Hi
 
 I tried compiling usb-skelton.c in linux FC2 kernel and  
its giving compilation errors. Is there anything I need to 
setup before I will get this compiled?  or i just need a 
proper compile command?

gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ 
 -I/usr/src/linux-2.5.35/include -O2 -Wall -c -o  usbdriver.o usb-skeleton.c 

is it wrong somewhere?
please help
mmpire

 
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From mp at rawbw.com  Thu Feb 24 20:41:43 2005
From: mp at rawbw.com (Michael Paoli)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:41:43 -0800
Subject: [buug] Loading a .tar.gz file in Debian Linux
In-Reply-To: <421D5DF6.7060704@hawaiidakine.com>
References: <421D5DF6.7060704@hawaiidakine.com>
Message-ID: <1109306503.421eac8763807@webmail.rawbw.com>

Debian, like any particular "flavor" of UNIX/LINUX/BSD/... has a bit of
its own particular ways of (at least preferably) doing things.
Debian is quite well engineered and documented[1].

I'm not sure exactly what your xfce/gui/tar.gz question is asking[2], so
I'll skip that one at least for now.

The FHS[3] will give a good overview of much of the filesystem/directory
layout.  Debian policy[4] will cover further details, including
filesystem hierarchy, run levels and init.d scripts, among many other
details.  You can use update-rc.d[5] to tweak what stuff is/isn't
started in various run levels (e.g GUI console login stuff), you can
also check out and possibly tweak /etc/inittab[6][7] (see also[4]) to
figure out what you want the default run level to be, and what you do and
don't want launched at that run level.  You can also check out virtual
console[8] capabilities (e.g. you may just want to switch to a text based
virtual console, rather than disabling GUI console login on other virtual
console(s)).

Debian has quite a number of GUI login managers and X window
managers/frameworks available.  I actually have my laptop configured
with 3 distinct GUI login frameworks and default X window managers on
three distinct virtual consoles, and text logins configured on 8 virtual
consoles, and Debian offers far more than 3 X window managers.

You might also try asking on a Debian or LINUX list or checking with such
user group(s)[9][10][11][12] ... you may find a higher
concentration of LINUX and/or Debian folks there.

Quoting "webmaster at hawaiidakine.com" <webmaster at hawaiidakine.com>:

> I am helping a friend with a Debian install.

> Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce from 
> a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is "sarge". I am a FreeBSD 
> person and the file structure in "sarge" is not easy to figure out. Like 
> I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command line. So I 
> have finally, after reading the top complaints on the Debian list, 
> figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you need to have it. 
>     I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
> available on the apt-get.

references/footnotes:
1. http://www.debian.org/doc/
2. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
3. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
4. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
5. update-rc.d(8)
6. inittab(5)
7. init(8)
8. console(4)
9. http://bad.debian.net/
10. http://www.balug.org/
11. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
12.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=debian+OR+linux+%22bay+area%22+%22user+group%22+OR+%22users+group%22+OR+%22user%27s+group%22&btnG=Google+Search


From mmpire at hit.edu.cn  Fri Feb 25 01:15:26 2005
From: mmpire at hit.edu.cn (mmpire)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:15:26 +0800
Subject: [buug] what command i should use to compile "usb-skeleton.c" in
	linux tree?
Message-ID: <002901c51b1a$8b253be0$1f641aad@mmpire>

 Hi

 I tried compiling usb-skelton.c in linux FC2 kernel and  
its giving compilation errors. Is there anything I need to 
setup before I will get this compiled?  or i just need a 
proper compile command?

gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ 
 -I/usr/src/linux-2.5.35/include -O2 -Wall -c -o  usbdriver.o usb-skeleton.c 

is it wrong somewhere?
please help
mmpire

 
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