From mcsx3 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 09:00:35 2006 From: mcsx3 at yahoo.com (Gabriel Gabriel) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Hilfe! IBM THINKPAD 240X Message-ID: <20060424160035.19778.qmail@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 6 onto my Thinkpad 240x. Everything seems to work just fine but, I can't get X to run. Apparently it is the vert and horz refresh rates. I can't find the right ones. I don't have the specs that might have come with the computer. If I enter frequency ranges under the "Monitor section" for the horizontal and vertical parameters, the system hangs (black lcd screen) and Ctl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work -only Ctl+Alt+Del, which reboots the system. If I enter single numbers for Horz & Vert the system doesn't hang but I get: "(EE) Silicon Motion valid modes found", "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" and two lines down:"Fatal server error:" "no screens found" I appreciate beforehand all help. This is my 3rd attempt to getting away from Windows. Thanks! Anna. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mcsx3 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 09:27:20 2006 From: mcsx3 at yahoo.com (Gabriel Gabriel) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Fwd: Hilfe! IBM THINKPAD 240X Message-ID: <20060424162720.8291.qmail@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Gabriel Gabriel wrote: > From Gabriel Gabriel Mon Apr 24 09:00:35 2006 > Received: from [201.137.34.148] by > web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Apr > 2006 09:00:35 PDT > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT) > From: Gabriel Gabriel > Subject: Hilfe! IBM THINKPAD 240X > To: buug at weak.org > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Content-Length: 984 > > Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 6 onto my Thinkpad > 240x. > Everything seems to work just fine but, I can't get > X > to run. Apparently it is the vert and horz refresh > rates. I can't find the right ones. I don't have > the > specs that > might have come with the computer. If I enter > frequency ranges under the "Monitor section" for the > horizontal and vertical parameters, the system hangs > (black lcd screen) and Ctl+Alt+Backspace doesn't > work > -only Ctl+Alt+Del, which reboots the system. > If I enter single numbers for Horz & Vert the system > doesn't hang but I get: "(EE) Silicon Motion valid > modes found", "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a > usable configuration" and two lines down:"Fatal > server > error:" "no screens found" > > I appreciate beforehand all help. This is my 3rd > attempt to getting away from Windows. > > Thanks! Anna. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mcsx3 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 14:26:14 2006 From: mcsx3 at yahoo.com (Gabriel Gabriel) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Help! Message-ID: <20060426212614.97756.qmail@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 6 onto my Thinkpad 240x. Everything seems to work just fine but, I can't get X to run. Apparently it is the vert and horz refresh rates. I can't find the right ones. I don't have the specs that might have come with the computer. If I enter frequency ranges under the "Monitor section" for the horizontal and vertical parameters, the system hangs (black lcd screen) and Ctl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work -only Ctl+Alt+Del, which reboots the system. If I enter single numbers for Horz & Vert the system doesn't hang but I get: "(EE) Silicon Motion valid modes found", "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" and two lines down:"Fatal server error:" "no screens found" I got 192MB RAM and 60Gib HD and 455 Celeron. I appreciate beforehand all help. This is my 3rd attempt to getting away from Windows. Thanks! Anna. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Apr 26 15:18:13 2006 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:18:13 -0700 Subject: [buug] Help! In-Reply-To: <20060426212614.97756.qmail@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060426212614.97756.qmail@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060426221813.GQ7642@linuxmafia.com> Gabriel Gabriel (mcsx3 at yahoo.com) posted for the third time (and no, I'm not complaining, just noting the fact): > Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 6 onto my Thinkpad 240x. > Everything seems to work just fine but, I can't get X > to run. Apparently it is the vert and horz refresh > rates. I can't find the right ones. Assuming your surmise is correct, using something like the following in the Monitor section of your X server configuration file (X.org or XFree86, depending) _ought_ to do the trick (but for the caveat below): HorizSync 48.0 - 65.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0 Those are taken from a different ThinkPad (T42p) where X is running fine. I'd have posted that earlier, but you also said: > If I enter frequency ranges under the "Monitor section" for the > horizontal and vertical parameters, the system hangs (black lcd > screen) and Ctl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work -only Ctl+Alt+Del, which > reboots the system. From mcsx3 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 19:49:31 2006 From: mcsx3 at yahoo.com (Gabriel Gabriel) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] FreeBSD 6 on IBM Thinkpad 240x Message-ID: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi! I posted the following message earlier: Hi! I just installed FreeBSD 6 onto my Thinkpad 240x. Everything seems to work just fine but, I can't get X to run. Apparently it is the vert and horz refresh rates. I can't find the right ones. I don't have the specs that might have come with the computer. If I enter frequency ranges under the "Monitor section" for the horizontal and vertical parameters, the system hangs (black lcd screen) and Ctl+Alt+Backspace doesn't work -only Ctl+Alt+Del, which reboots the system. If I enter single numbers for Horz & Vert the system doesn't hang but I get: "(EE) Silicon Motion valid modes found", "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" and two lines down:"Fatal server error:" "no screens found" I got 192MB RAM and 60Gib HD and 455 Celeron. I appreciate beforehand all help. This is my 3rd attempt to getting away from Windows. Thanks! Anna. I think I should've said besides the above: "If I enter frequency ranges e.g. 48-75 under the "Monitor" section, and after having saved the xorg.conf.new file issue the command: X -config xorg.conf.new, the screen goes blank for a split second and then I get a set of vertical RGB lines also for a split second, and then the screen goes blank (black in this case) and the computer does nothing (I've waited up to half an hour without touching the machine and nothing happens), and when I type ctl+alt+bckspace (which as far as I know gets you out of X) nothing happens. At this point the only thing that works is ctl+alt+del, which reboots the system. I tried the recommended fequencies: HorizSync 48.0 - 65.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0 for the ThinkPad (T42p) and don't work -I get the same symptoms as above. as before I appreciate all help and say thanks. Anna. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Apr 26 22:47:13 2006 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:47:13 -0700 Subject: [buug] FreeBSD 6 on IBM Thinkpad 240x In-Reply-To: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20060427054713.GS7642@linuxmafia.com> Quoting Gabriel Gabriel (mcsx3 at yahoo.com): [FreeBSD 6, ThinkPad 240x, X.org configuration.] > I think I should've said besides the above: "If I > enter frequency ranges e.g. 48-75 under the "Monitor" > section, and after having saved the xorg.conf.new file > issue the command: X -config xorg.conf.new, the screen > goes blank for a split second and then I get a set of > vertical RGB lines also for a split second, and then > the screen goes blank (black in this case) and the > computer does nothing (I've waited up to half an hour > without touching the machine and nothing happens), and > when I type ctl+alt+bckspace (which as far as I know > gets you out of X) nothing happens. So, it turns out that the Silicon Motion LynxEM+ video chipset used in the ThinkPad 240x has been fully supported since XFree86 4.0.2. The X.org X11 server you're using is a project forked off from XFree86 (long story). With reasonable luck, given that FreeBSD 6 is pretty darned current, your version of X.org has all the advantages of that code and more. The ever-useful Linux on Laptops Web site (http://www.linux-laptop.net/) has a number of links to pages about *ix setup on the 240x. (Well, Linux ;-> , but the X setup issues are exactly the same, because the X11 software itself is the same.) Here's one, in particular: http://cs.baylor.edu/~rgm/thinkpad/thinkpad240x.html You'll notice that the page includes a link to that user's XF96Config file, which is the configuration file for XFree86: Because of the, er, family relationship between the software projects, X.org uses the exact same configuration file format, except calling it xorg.conf, instead. There might be some reason why you can't directly substitute that file, that isn't occurring to me at the moment. However, at bare minimum, you can diff them, spot the differences, and try to figure out which are significant and why. If _that_ doesn't work, you're more than welcome to bring your laptop to one of the Linux user group installfests in the San Francisco Bay Area. We're always perfectly happy to help *BSD people -- and, hey, the X configuration issues really _are_ exactly the same. ;-> From evilmofo at speakeasy.net Wed Apr 26 23:33:56 2006 From: evilmofo at speakeasy.net (Evil MoFo) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:33:56 -0700 Subject: [buug] FreeBSD 6 on IBM Thinkpad 240x In-Reply-To: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <445065D4.60508@speakeasy.net> my laptop (sharp mm10) has a silicon motion card, i feel your pain heres my x config: http://www.evilmofo.com/site/computer/laptop/freebsd/xorg.60 quick version: you need to have this in your card options: Option "UseBIOS" "off" From rick at linuxmafia.com Wed Apr 26 23:36:05 2006 From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:36:05 -0700 Subject: [buug] FreeBSD 6 on IBM Thinkpad 240x In-Reply-To: <20060427054713.GS7642@linuxmafia.com> References: <20060427024931.79183.qmail@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20060427054713.GS7642@linuxmafia.com> Message-ID: <20060427063605.GT7642@linuxmafia.com> I wrote: > You'll notice that the page includes a link to that user's XF96Config > file, which is the configuration file for XFree86: ^ Typo, in case it wasn't obvious. Should be XF86Config.