From webmaster at hawaiidakine.com  Mon Jul  3 20:21:36 2006
From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com (Al Plant)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:21:36 -1000
Subject: [buug] Sendmail on FreeBSD 6.1 rejected
Message-ID: <44A9DEC0.4010007@hawaiidakine.com>

Aloha and Happy 4th of July.

I am trying to make a mail server with sendmail and have not done this 
before. I am getting the following errors.

Does anyone know what file holds the relaying that needs to be set up to 
make it work. The doumentation I have been able to find either has 
errors or is very fragmanted and hard to follow as a HOWTo.
Thanks,

 >>>>The attached message had PERMANENT fatal delivery errors!

After one or more unsuccessful delivery attempts the attached message has
been removed from the mail queue on this server.  The number and frequency
of delivery attempts are determined by local configuration parameters.

YOUR MESSAGE WAS NOT DELIVERED TO ONE OR MORE RECIPIENTS!

Failed address: admin at hdk5.net

--- Session Transcript ---
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Parsing Message 
<xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\pd90000002791.msg>
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: To: admin at hdk5.net
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Subject: test b
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Message-ID: <44A6D5EE.2050203 at hawaiidakine.com>
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: MX-record resolution of [hdk5.net] in 
progress (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: *  P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120) MX=[holo9.hdk5.net]
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting MX: P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120) 
MX=[holo9.hdk5.net]
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to [holo9.hdk5.net 
: 25]
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: A-record resolution of [holo9.hdk5.net] in 
progress (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: D=holo9.hdk5.net TTL=(120) A=[66.180.132.238]
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to [66.180.132.238 
: 25]
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for socket connection...
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Socket connection established (64.75.245.3 : 
1734 -> 66.180.132.238 : 25)
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for protocol initiation...
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 220 holo9.hdk5.net ESMTP Sendmail 
8.13.6/8.13.6; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:31:00 -1000 (HST)
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> EHLO mail.alohahosting.net
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-holo9.hdk5.net Hello 
oahu.alohahosting.net [64.75.245.3], pleased to meet you
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-PIPELINING
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-8BITMIME
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-SIZE
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DSN
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ETRN
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DELIVERBY
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 HELP
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> MAIL From:<webmaster at hawaiidakine.com> 
SIZE=1173
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 2.1.0 <webmaster at hawaiidakine.com>... 
Sender ok
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> RCPT To:<admin at hdk5.net>
  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 550 5.7.1 <admin at hdk5.net>... Relaying denied
--- End Transcript ---
: Message contains [1] file attachments
 >>>>>


Al Plant

  -- Webmaster- http://hawaiidakine.com Admin- http://freebsdinfo.org --
Supporting Open Source Computing - - FreeBSD 6.* -- Debian Linux 3*
"All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carroll



From bferrell at baywinds.org  Mon Jul  3 22:38:49 2006
From: bferrell at baywinds.org (Bruce Ferrell)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:38:49 -0700
Subject: [buug] Sendmail on FreeBSD 6.1 rejected
In-Reply-To: <44A9DEC0.4010007@hawaiidakine.com>
References: <44A9DEC0.4010007@hawaiidakine.com>
Message-ID: <44A9FEE9.90205@baywinds.org>

look for a file, /etc/mail/access and references to it in the README for 
sendmail.  Barring that install webmin and use that to configure it.

Al Plant wrote:
> Aloha and Happy 4th of July.
> 
> I am trying to make a mail server with sendmail and have not done this 
> before. I am getting the following errors.
> 
> Does anyone know what file holds the relaying that needs to be set up to 
> make it work. The doumentation I have been able to find either has 
> errors or is very fragmanted and hard to follow as a HOWTo.
> Thanks,
> 
>  >>>>The attached message had PERMANENT fatal delivery errors!
> 
> After one or more unsuccessful delivery attempts the attached message has
> been removed from the mail queue on this server.  The number and frequency
> of delivery attempts are determined by local configuration parameters.
> 
> YOUR MESSAGE WAS NOT DELIVERED TO ONE OR MORE RECIPIENTS!
> 
> Failed address: admin at hdk5.net
> 
> --- Session Transcript ---
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Parsing Message 
> <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\pd90000002791.msg>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: To: admin at hdk5.net
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Subject: test b
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Message-ID: <44A6D5EE.2050203 at hawaiidakine.com>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: MX-record resolution of [hdk5.net] in progress 
> (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: *  P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120) MX=[holo9.hdk5.net]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting MX: P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120) 
> MX=[holo9.hdk5.net]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to [holo9.hdk5.net 
> : 25]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: A-record resolution of [holo9.hdk5.net] in 
> progress (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: D=holo9.hdk5.net TTL=(120) A=[66.180.132.238]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to [66.180.132.238 
> : 25]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for socket connection...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Socket connection established (64.75.245.3 : 
> 1734 -> 66.180.132.238 : 25)
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for protocol initiation...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 220 holo9.hdk5.net ESMTP Sendmail 
> 8.13.6/8.13.6; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:31:00 -1000 (HST)
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> EHLO mail.alohahosting.net
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-holo9.hdk5.net Hello 
> oahu.alohahosting.net [64.75.245.3], pleased to meet you
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-PIPELINING
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-8BITMIME
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-SIZE
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DSN
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ETRN
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DELIVERBY
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 HELP
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> MAIL From:<webmaster at hawaiidakine.com> 
> SIZE=1173
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 2.1.0 <webmaster at hawaiidakine.com>... 
> Sender ok
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> RCPT To:<admin at hdk5.net>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 550 5.7.1 <admin at hdk5.net>... Relaying denied
> --- End Transcript ---
> : Message contains [1] file attachments
>  >>>>>
> 
> 
> Al Plant
> 
>  -- Webmaster- http://hawaiidakine.com Admin- http://freebsdinfo.org --
> Supporting Open Source Computing - - FreeBSD 6.* -- Debian Linux 3*
> "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carroll
> 
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From jb at caustic.org  Mon Jul  3 22:44:19 2006
From: jb at caustic.org (f.johan.beisser)
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:44:19 -0700
Subject: [buug] Sendmail on FreeBSD 6.1 rejected
In-Reply-To: <44A9DEC0.4010007@hawaiidakine.com>
References: <44A9DEC0.4010007@hawaiidakine.com>
Message-ID: <D4510064-C59D-4341-B15D-52B87C2E0F07@caustic.org>

You  may need to set up /etc/mail/relay-domains and/or /etc/mail/ 
local-host-names.

hope this helps,
jb

On Jul 3, 2006, at 20:21 , Al Plant wrote:

> Aloha and Happy 4th of July.
>
> I am trying to make a mail server with sendmail and have not done  
> this before. I am getting the following errors.
>
> Does anyone know what file holds the relaying that needs to be set  
> up to make it work. The doumentation I have been able to find  
> either has errors or is very fragmanted and hard to follow as a HOWTo.
> Thanks,
>
> >>>>The attached message had PERMANENT fatal delivery errors!
>
> After one or more unsuccessful delivery attempts the attached  
> message has
> been removed from the mail queue on this server.  The number and  
> frequency
> of delivery attempts are determined by local configuration parameters.
>
> YOUR MESSAGE WAS NOT DELIVERED TO ONE OR MORE RECIPIENTS!
>
> Failed address: admin at hdk5.net
>
> --- Session Transcript ---
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Parsing Message <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> \pd90000002791.msg>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: To: admin at hdk5.net
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Subject: test b
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Message-ID: <44A6D5EE. 
> 2050203 at hawaiidakine.com>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: MX-record resolution of [hdk5.net] in  
> progress (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: *  P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120) MX= 
> [holo9.hdk5.net]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting MX: P=000 D=hdk5.net TTL=(120)  
> MX=[holo9.hdk5.net]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to  
> [holo9.hdk5.net : 25]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: A-record resolution of [holo9.hdk5.net]  
> in progress (DNS Server: 64.75.245.7)...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: D=holo9.hdk5.net TTL=(120) A= 
> [66.180.132.238]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Attempting SMTP connection to  
> [66.180.132.238 : 25]
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for socket connection...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Socket connection established  
> (64.75.245.3 : 1734 -> 66.180.132.238 : 25)
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:16: Waiting for protocol initiation...
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 220 holo9.hdk5.net ESMTP Sendmail  
> 8.13.6/8.13.6; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:31:00 -1000 (HST)
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> EHLO mail.alohahosting.net
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-holo9.hdk5.net Hello  
> oahu.alohahosting.net [64.75.245.3], pleased to meet you
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-PIPELINING
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-8BITMIME
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-SIZE
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DSN
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-ETRN
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250-DELIVERBY
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 HELP
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> MAIL  
> From:<webmaster at hawaiidakine.com> SIZE=1173
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 250 2.1.0  
> <webmaster at hawaiidakine.com>... Sender ok
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: --> RCPT To:<admin at hdk5.net>
>  Sun 2006-07-02 20:43:17: <-- 550 5.7.1 <admin at hdk5.net>...  
> Relaying denied
> --- End Transcript ---
> : Message contains [1] file attachments
> >>>>>
>
>
> Al Plant
>
>  -- Webmaster- http://hawaiidakine.com Admin- http:// 
> freebsdinfo.org --
> Supporting Open Source Computing - - FreeBSD 6.* -- Debian Linux 3*
> "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis  
> Carroll
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buug mailing list
> Buug at weak.org
> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug

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Duncan





From larry at compwebtech.com  Tue Jul  4 12:25:57 2006
From: larry at compwebtech.com (larry at compwebtech.com)
Date: 4 Jul 2006 14:25:57 -0500
Subject: [buug] Will be out till July 5th 2006
Message-ID: <20060704192557.22374.qmail@plesk.ev1servers.net>

Sorry, but I will be out till  July 5th. Take with you then.

Sincerely,

Larry Caragay




From larry at compwebtech.com  Wed Jul  5 12:25:51 2006
From: larry at compwebtech.com (larry at compwebtech.com)
Date: 5 Jul 2006 14:25:51 -0500
Subject: [buug] Will be out till July 5th 2006
Message-ID: <20060705192551.7997.qmail@plesk.ev1servers.net>

Sorry, but I will be out till  July 5th. Take with you then.

Sincerely,

Larry Caragay




From charles.paul at gmail.com  Wed Jul  5 14:25:45 2006
From: charles.paul at gmail.com (Charles Paul)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:25:45 -0700
Subject: [buug] BUUG Meetings and "Hello Again!"
Message-ID: <f720c0630607051425p356eee85kb9326e6cb9a05ac0@mail.gmail.com>

Aloha folks!

I used to attend BUUG meetings back in 2000/2001.  Glad to be back on
the list.   When and where are the next meetings; are they at Au Coq
Au Lait still?

Thanks,
Charles Paul


From atporter at primate.net  Wed Jul  5 14:49:06 2006
From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron Porter)
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 14:49:06 -0700
Subject: [buug] BUUG Meetings and "Hello Again!"
In-Reply-To: <f720c0630607051425p356eee85kb9326e6cb9a05ac0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f720c0630607051425p356eee85kb9326e6cb9a05ac0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060705214906.GA19948@primate.net>

On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:25:45PM -0700, Charles Paul wrote:
> Aloha folks!
> 
> I used to attend BUUG meetings back in 2000/2001.  Glad to be back on
> the list.   When and where are the next meetings; are they at Au Coq
> Au Lait still?

 Yep. Au Coquelet, 7pm


From webmaster at hawaiidakine.com  Sat Jul  8 17:31:03 2006
From: webmaster at hawaiidakine.com (Al Plant)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2006 14:31:03 -1000
Subject: [buug] Authentication on  an email server
Message-ID: <44B04E47.9040904@hawaiidakine.com>

Aloha Gurus,

FreeBSD 6.1

I have installed sendmail imap and pop3. I  tried installing dovecot. I 
can still send from the admin at hdk5.net user to anywhere on the inet. 
However, I get a bad authentication passwd err for the same user when I 
try to download his mail.
The server box has ssh and I can get onto it with the password assigned 
with no problem. Doesn't the dovecot use the same account passwd for the 
account? Or do I have to enable ssl to use the ssh passwrd system which 
is encrypted? I just left ssl off to run unencrypted for testing.

This was my problem from the beginning not being able to receive, only 
send to other accounts. But at least dovecot has created an err message 
that says why. I don't know how to fix this. Havent found a how to.

Al Plant

  -- Webmaster- http://hawaiidakine.com Admin- http://freebsdinfo.org --
Supporting Open Source Computing - - FreeBSD 6.* -- Debian Linux 3*
"All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carroll



From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Wed Jul 12 20:28:01 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 20:28:01 -0700
Subject: [buug] free computers and other hardware, SOMA S.F. pickup,
	offer expires ~next week
Message-ID: <1152761281.44b5bdc16aa89@webmail.rawbw.com>

Another group where I work has some computers and other hardware to
get rid of - free to a good home.  They want to get rid of it
rather/quite soon (I don't have precise "deadline" yet, but it's
definitely this month, and probably sometime next week - I'll update
if I get more definitive word on cut-off date).

Pickup location is in the South Of Market Area (SOMA) in San
Francisco, and would almost certainly be limited to "business hours"
(I don't know if there would or could be exceptions, as it's another
group that's handling these items).

I likely can't provide more details on these items - they're probably
generally working and complete, except as noted, but would be without
operating system (may or may not include proof of license
certificate), and some or many of them may not include hard drives
(may depend if the group ends up with sufficient time to sufficiently
wipe the hard drive data).

A bit below, I provide the list I got of the items.
If you're interested:
o send an e-mail to my *work* e-mail address, which you can get from
  cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz
  and applying rot13(6), or
  tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]'
  e.g.:
  $ echo cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz | tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]'
o include "free computers and other hardware" in the subject line
o include your contact information and what you are or may be
  interested in, and perhaps a brief sentence or two of what you
  intend to do with the stuff (in case the other group has lots
  of request and has to pick and/or allocate among them)
and I'll then pass the e-mail along to my contact in that group.

"
The items below will be recycled unless they find a good home in the
next week (7/17).
"
Qty   Description
  8   Dell GX1
  1   Alpha D510
  1   Compaq Deskpro EN
  3   Ultra 10
  3   Ultra 10 (parts)
  3   Unbranded PCs
  9   Keyboards
 11   17-21" monitors
  1   LaserJet 4000
  1   HP Fax
  1   GX110
  2   Cybex 4 port KVM
  1   2450 chassis/motherboard (non-working?)
  1   280R (non-working?)
  1   Alpha DS510
  1   Misc PC
  1   IBM Netfinity 5500
  1   E250
  2   GX1
  1   Avocent 8 port (non-network)
  2   Sun keyboard
  2   Sun monitors


From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Sat Jul 22 21:06:38 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:06:38 -0700
Subject: [buug] for an aspiring young person interested in information
	security and LINUX ...
Message-ID: <1153627598.44c2f5ceba6c0@webmail.rawbw.com>

So, ... for an aspiring young person interested in information
security and LINUX, and rather/quite new/inexperienced with LINUX,
I think at our meeting, and perhaps adding some, we came up with a
fair list of resources.  Flushing them out a bit more with URLs and
such, that list might roughly look like, or at least probably include:

RawWrite (or rawrite) is an essential tool for creating boot disks
and other floppy disk images. Traditional rawwrite programs do no run
under modern versions of windows so here is the Win32 version which
does.
RawWrite for Windows http://www.chrysocome.net/rawwrite

And closely related to RawWrite (for those familiar with
UNIX/LINUX/BSD the utility name is quite familiar):
dd allows flexible reading and writing to any disk and is better
suited to things like hard disks, USB disks and CF devices.
dd for windows
dd - convert and copy a file
This version does not actually do any conversion but it allows the
flexible copying of data under in a win32 environment.
http://www.chrysocome.net/dd

Excellent technical books on LINUX, UNIX, and lots of related areas.
O'Reilly & Associates http://www.oreilly.com/
Also has various free resources, including free downloadable books,
e.g.:
O'Reilly Open Books Project http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/
and a slight bit of UNIX/BSD history, e.g.:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2000/03/17/bsd.html?page=1

Very popular and user friendly, based upon Debian, large and thriving
community support - they'll even ship you CDs for free ... but the
shipment can take quite a while.  With their most current release,
the one CD can be used as a live CD, and can also be used to do a
hard drive installation if/when one wants to do so.
Ubuntu Linux http://www.ubuntu.com/

I believe the earliest LINUX live CD project/distribution,
more technically oriented, not particularly oriented to be able to
do a hard drive install from CD, though it does include a utility
to make that possible for those that really want to.  It's also based
upon Debian:
KNOPPIX Linux Live CD http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

largest, most free as in freedom (and also free as in no cost) and
very well supported among the LINUX distributions.  Tends to be a bit
more technical, so not necessarily the easiest place to start for
something that's more user friendly:
Debian http://www.debian.org/

On-line Real Time Help Using IRC
http://www.debian.org/support#irc
May be a bit Debian-focused/oriented, but probably fairly useful also
for other Debian based distributions and perhaps to some extent more
general LINUX help.
There's also #LinuxHelp

At least some leading commercial (non-free) LINUX distributions:
Red Hat (particularly strong in the US): http://www.redhat.com/
SUSE (Particularly strong in Europe): http://www.novell.com/linux/
They also have related free projects/distributions:
redhat.com Fedora Project http://www.redhat.com/fedora/
openSUSE http://en.opensuse.org/
And there are distributions/efforts to make highly compatible free
distributions, e.g.:
White Box Enterprise Linux http://www.whiteboxlinux.org/
CentOS The Community ENTerprise Operating Systems:
http://www.centos.org/

Laptops & (compatibility with) LINUX
http://www.linux-laptop.net/
I find, for example, for my personal laptop make and model, 8 (7 in
English) distinct detailed reports from users on their experiences
with a distribution, and what did/didn't work for them, and what they
had to do to support/use various portions of the hardware on the
laptop.  Since LINUX distributions tend to have much of their code
base in common, often what can be usefully applied for any one
specific distribution, can often be done in the same or a similar
manner on most other common LINUX distributions.

There are also good sites for getting information about many LINUX
distributions, comparing them, and looking at other factors, news,
and developments:
http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.linux.org/

Bay Area Linux Events http://linuxmafia.com/bale/#cabal

CABAL (Consortium of All Bay Area Linux)
http://linuxmafia.com/bale/#cabal
They also do InstallFests quite regularly

Google has their LINUX specific search:
http://www.google.com/linux

LINUX distributions aren't the only free UNIX-like operating systems
out there.  There are most notably also the BSDs, e.g.:
OpenBSD particularly emphasizes security, and is probably the most
secure out-of-the-box relatively general purpose UNIX-like
distribution / operating system available.
The OpenBSD Project http://www.openbsd.org/
The FreeBSD Project http://www.freebsd.org/
The NetBSD Project http://www.netbsd.org/

(unfortunately no longer as useful/accessible for the under 18 crowd,
too bad they don't at least allow responsible well behaved kids or
kids under 16, when accompanied by a responsible adult ... heck, I was
only 16 when I was first in college)
LinuxWorld Conference & Expo http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
Ubuntu and Debian will be there, in addition to other distributions,
vendors, non-profits, etc.  Expo pass is free with advance
registration.

Professional associations:
USENIX The Advanced Computing Association http://www.usenix.org/
USENIX also makes a fair bit of stuff free to non-members, e.g.
issues of ;login: The USENIX Magazine that are over one year old are
available to the public for free:
http://www.usenix.org/publications/login/
SAGE (for sysadmins) http://www.sage.org/

SANS Institute -
Network, Security, Computer, Audit Information & Training
http://www.sans.org/
SANS Internet Storm Center http://isc.sans.org/
You can also click on their map to get information on what percentages
and of what types of attacks come from where around the world, and
it's updated quite frequently (at least daily).

Security and other risks (e.g. flaws, design considerations, analysis
of failures/problems encountered, lots of information on how to better
avoid problems, etc. - excellent book for programmers, engineers,
security professionals, and those that manage them, and good
information/reading for the general public at large also)
Computer-Related Risks - Peter G. Neumann
http://www.csl.sri.com/users/neumann/neumann-book.html
... peeking at some library catalogs, Berkeley, Oakland and San
Francisco Public don't have that title, but San Jose Public does, and
multiple University of California libraries - including the UC
Berkeley Engineering library - do.  I don't think members of the
general public can check out books from the UC library system (though
I might be mistaken), but if it's in an open shelved library, it can
probably be read in the library.  Inter-library loan might also be
available between Berkeley Public and San Jose Public.

Peter G. Neumann is also moderator of:
Risks Digest -
Forum on risks to the public in computers and related systems
http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/risks

There's also BUGTRAQ - a "full disclosure" security list (security
flaws, exploits and fixes, and related stuff):
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1


From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Thu Jul 27 00:10:53 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:10:53 -0700
Subject: [buug] (S.F.) Free hardware: sun4u Sun Ultra 2 & Magma ...
Message-ID: <1153984253.44c866fdabab5@webmail.rawbw.com>

(S.F.) Free hardware: sun4u Sun Ultra 2 & Magma ...

Only have one of these to give away.  If you're interested, drop me a
note to my *work* e-mail address, which you can determine by applying
rot13(6) to:
cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz
or use tr(1), e.g.:
$ echo cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz | tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]'
Please do include the original subject line within the subject line of
your reply.  It also wouldn't hurt to give me a sentence or two or three
about what you wish to do with the hardware, in case I get multiple
requests for the hardware and have to pick one among them.

Pickup - pickup would need to be arranged for in advance, may be limited
to "business hours", and location is South of Market Area (SOMA), San
Francisco (not too far from 5th & Mission).

The system includes 3 hard drives (some internal, some external),
and also includes Magma hardware for lots of serial ports ... except some
of the Magma hardware doesn't work ... but one can probably still squeeze
at least 16 working serial ports out of the Magma hardware - with the
appropriate driver(s) and such.  It probably won't include
monitor/keyboard/mouse.  It doesn't include any operating system or
operating system media.  It may or may not include some Magma
documentation/drivers/accessories.

The information below provides at least some more information on the 
hardware and related details:

# /usr/platform/sun4u/sbin/prtdiag
System Configuration:  Sun Microsystems  sun4u Sun Ultra 2 UPA/SBus
(UltraSPARC-II 400MHz)
System clock frequency: 100 MHz
Memory size: 1024 Megabytes
 
========================= CPUs =========================
 
                    Run   Ecache   CPU    CPU
Brd  CPU   Module   MHz     MB    Impl.   Mask
---  ---  -------  -----  ------  ------  ----
 0     0     0      400     2.0   US-II    10.0
 

========================= IO Cards =========================
 
     Bus   Freq
Brd  Type  MHz   Slot        Name                          Model
---  ----  ----  ----------  ----------------------------
--------------------
 0   SBus   25           14  SUNW,fas/sd (block)
 0   SBus   25           14  SUNW,hme
 0   SBus   25           14  SUNW,bpp
 
Cannot determine PCI device type. 0   UPA   100           30  FFB,
Double Buffered          SUNW,501-4173
 
No failures found in System
===========================
# prtconf
System Configuration:  Sun Microsystems  sun4u
Memory size: 1024 Megabytes
System Peripherals (Software Nodes):
 
SUNW,Ultra-2
    packages (driver not attached)
        terminal-emulator (driver not attached)
        deblocker (driver not attached)
        obp-tftp (driver not attached)
        disk-label (driver not attached)
        sun-keyboard (driver not attached)
        ufs-file-system (driver not attached)
    chosen (driver not attached)
    openprom (driver not attached)
        client-services (driver not attached)
    options, instance #0
    aliases (driver not attached)
    memory (driver not attached)
    virtual-memory (driver not attached)
    counter-timer (driver not attached)
    sbus, instance #0
        SUNW,CS4231, instance #0
        auxio (driver not attached)
        flashprom (driver not attached)
        SUNW,fdtwo, instance #0 (driver not attached)
        eeprom (driver not attached)
        zs, instance #0
        zs, instance #1
        sc (driver not attached)
        SUNW,pll (driver not attached)
        SUNW,fas, instance #0
            sd (driver not attached)
            st (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #0
            sd, instance #1
            sd, instance #2 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #3 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #4 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #5 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #6
            sd, instance #7 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #8 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #9 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #10
            sd, instance #11 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #12 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #13 (driver not attached)
            sd, instance #14 (driver not attached)
        SUNW,hme, instance #0
        SUNW,bpp, instance #0
        MAGM,Magma  SBox  (driver not attached)
        sbusmem, instance #0
        sbusmem, instance #1
        sbusmem, instance #2
        sbusmem, instance #3
        sbusmem, instance #4
        sbusmem, instance #5
        sbusmem, instance #6
    SUNW,UltraSPARC-II (driver not attached)
    SUNW,ffb, instance #0
    pseudo, instance #0
# format </dev/null
Searching for disks...done
 

AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS:
       0. c0t0d0 <SUN9.0G cyl 4924 alt 2 hd 27 sec 133>
          /sbus at 1f,0/SUNW,fas at e,8800000/sd at 0,0
       1. c0t1d0 <SUN9.0G cyl 4924 alt 2 hd 27 sec 133>
          /sbus at 1f,0/SUNW,fas at e,8800000/sd at 1,0
       2. c0t11d0 <SUN9.0G cyl 4924 alt 2 hd 27 sec 133>
          /sbus at 1f,0/SUNW,fas at e,8800000/sd at b,0
Specify disk (enter its number):
# for tmp in c0t0d0 c0t1d0 c0t11d0; do echo "$tmp:"; prtvtoc
/dev/rdsk/c0t11d0s2 | sed -ne '/^\* Dimensions:/,/^\* *$/p'; done; unset
tmp
c0t0d0:
* Dimensions:
*     512 bytes/sector
*     133 sectors/track
*      27 tracks/cylinder
*    3591 sectors/cylinder
*    4926 cylinders
*    4924 accessible cylinders
*
c0t1d0:
* Dimensions:
*     512 bytes/sector
*     133 sectors/track
*      27 tracks/cylinder
*    3591 sectors/cylinder
*    4926 cylinders
*    4924 accessible cylinders
*
c0t11d0:
* Dimensions:
*     512 bytes/sector
*     133 sectors/track
*      27 tracks/cylinder
*    3591 sectors/cylinder
*    4926 cylinders
*    4924 accessible cylinders
*
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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Thu Jul 27 00:38:38 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:38:38 -0700
Subject: [buug] (S.F.) Free hardware: Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC 9000/859/K220
	...
Message-ID: <1153985918.44c86d7ea09bd@webmail.rawbw.com>

(S.F.) Free hardware: Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC 9000/859/K220 ...

Only have one of these to give away.  If you're interested, drop me a
note to my *work* e-mail address, which you can determine by applying
rot13(6) to:
cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz
or use tr(1), e.g.:
$ echo cnbyvzvp at jryyfsnetb.pbz | tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]'
Please do include the original subject line within the subject line of
your reply.  It also wouldn't hurt to give me a sentence or two or 
three about what you wish to do with the hardware, in case I get 
multiple requests for the hardware and have to pick one among them.

Pickup - pickup would need to be arranged for in advance, may be 
limited to "business hours", and location is South of Market Area 
(SOMA), San Francisco (not too far from 5th & Mission).

This system isn't available quite yet, but I anticipate it would be
available by not later than sometime next week.

It is anticipated that the system will include the K220 itself, two
external disk arrays (approximately 16 total disks, including both
internal and external), and the SCSI cables and terminators.  The SCSI
disks are all differential (and that is not LVD).  The unit does have
a SE SCSI bus also (e.g. to support internal SCSI tape and/or CD-ROM).
It does not include: monitor/terminal/keyboard/mouse, operating system
or operating system media, documentation or other accessories.

The information below provides at least some more information on the
hardware and related details, at least at a recent check, and it's
likely the configuration and details of the hardware to be given away
will probably still match, or nearly match, these details:

# model
9000/859/K220
#
# ioscan -fun
Class     I  H/W Path      Driver      S/W State H/W Type  Description
=======================================================================
ext_bus   0  10/0          c720        CLAIMED   INTERFACE GSC built-in
Fast/Wide SCSI Interface
disk      0  10/0.6.0      sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34371W
                          /dev/dsk/c0t6d0        /dev/rdsk/c0t6d0
                          /dev/dsk/c0t6d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t6d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c0t6d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t6d0s2lvm
ctl       0  10/0.7.0      sctl        CLAIMED   DEVICE    Initiator
disk      1  10/0.8.0      sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c0t8d0        /dev/rdsk/c0t8d0
                          /dev/dsk/c0t8d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t8d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c0t8d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t8d0s2lvm
disk      3  10/0.10.0     sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34573WC
                          /dev/dsk/c0t10d0        /dev/rdsk/c0t10d0
                          /dev/dsk/c0t10d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t10d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c0t10d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t10d0s2lvm
disk      4  10/0.11.0     sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c0t11d0        /dev/rdsk/c0t11d0
                          /dev/dsk/c0t11d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t11d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c0t11d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c0t11d0s2lvm
tty       0  10/4/0        mux2        CLAIMED   INTERFACE MUX
ext_bus   1  10/4/12       scsi3       CLAIMED   INTERFACE HP 28696A -
Wide SCSI ID=7
disk      5  10/4/12.3.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST39173WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t3d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t3d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t3d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t3d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t3d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t3d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t3d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t3d0
disk      6  10/4/12.4.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST39175LC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t4d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t4d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t4d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t4d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t4d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t4d0
disk      7  10/4/12.5.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST39175LC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t5d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t5d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t5d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t5d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t5d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t5d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t5d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t5d0
disk      8  10/4/12.6.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST39173WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t6d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t6d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t6d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t6d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t6d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t6d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t6d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t6d0
disk      9  10/4/12.8.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t8d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t8d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t8d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t8d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t8d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t8d0
disk     10  10/4/12.9.0   disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t9d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t9d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t9d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t9d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t9d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t9d0
disk     11  10/4/12.10.0  disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t10d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t10d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t10d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t10d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t10d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t10d0
disk     12  10/4/12.11.0  disc3       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c1t11d0        /dev/rdsk/c1t11d0
                          /dev/dsk/c1t11d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t11d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c1t11d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c1t11d0s2lvm
                          /dev/floppy/c1t11d0     /dev/rfloppy/c1t11d0
lan       0  10/4/16       btlan1      CLAIMED   INTERFACE HP HP-PB 100
Base TX card
                          /dev/diag/lan0  /dev/ether0     /dev/lan0
ext_bus   2  10/8          c720        CLAIMED   INTERFACE GSC add-on
Fast/Wide SCSI Interface
ctl       1  10/8.7.0      sctl        CLAIMED   DEVICE    Initiator
disk     13  10/8.8.0      sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c2t8d0        /dev/rdsk/c2t8d0
                          /dev/dsk/c2t8d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t8d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c2t8d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t8d0s2lvm
disk     14  10/8.9.0      sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c2t9d0        /dev/rdsk/c2t9d0
                          /dev/dsk/c2t9d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t9d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c2t9d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t9d0s2lvm
disk     15  10/8.10.0     sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34573WC
                          /dev/dsk/c2t10d0        /dev/rdsk/c2t10d0
                          /dev/dsk/c2t10d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t10d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c2t10d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t10d0s2lvm
disk     16  10/8.11.0     sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    SEAGATE
ST34572WC
                          /dev/dsk/c2t11d0        /dev/rdsk/c2t11d0
                          /dev/dsk/c2t11d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t11d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c2t11d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c2t11d0s2lvm
ext_bus   4  10/12/0       CentIf      CLAIMED   INTERFACE Built-in
Parallel Interface
ext_bus   3  10/12/5       c720        CLAIMED   INTERFACE Built-in SCSI
disk     17  10/12/5.2.0   sdisk       CLAIMED   DEVICE    TOSHIBA
CD-ROM XM-5701TA
                          /dev/dsk/c3t2d0        /dev/rdsk/c3t2d0
                          /dev/dsk/c3t2d0s1lvm   /dev/rdsk/c3t2d0s1lvm
                          /dev/dsk/c3t2d0s2lvm   /dev/rdsk/c3t2d0s2lvm
ctl       2  10/12/5.7.0   sctl        CLAIMED   DEVICE    Initiator
lan       1  10/12/6       lan2        CLAIMED   INTERFACE Built-in LAN
                          /dev/diag/lan1  /dev/ether1     /dev/lan1
ps2       0  10/12/7       ps2         CLAIMED   INTERFACE Built-in
Keyboard/Mouse
                          /dev/ps2_0     /dev/ps2kbd
                          /dev/ps2_1     /dev/ps2mouse
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From jammer at weak.org  Thu Jul 27 07:44:54 2006
From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:44:54 -0700
Subject: [buug] [Laryssa_Wirstiuk@prenhall.com: Is Your Linux User Group
	Still Active?]
Message-ID: <20060727144454.GW30266@weak.org>

Hi guys,

I should probably not be the contact for this anymore...who wants to
step up?

-Jon

----- Forwarded message from "Wirstiuk, Laryssa" <Laryssa_Wirstiuk at prenhall.com> -----

Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:09:33 -0400
From: "Wirstiuk, Laryssa" <Laryssa_Wirstiuk at prenhall.com>
Subject: Is Your Linux User Group Still Active?

Good morning!

 

Because we haven't recently corresponded, I'm concerned that you're
missing out on receiving complimentary copies of our newly published
Linux-related books!  I would like to develop a stronger relationship
with your Linux User Group and to continue providing you with exclusive
benefits and content from Addison-Wesley/Prentice Hall/Sams
Publishing/IBM Press!

 

If you are no longer the appropriate contact person for your Linux User
Group, please forward me the name and the contact information of the
person who is.  In addition, I am open to any suggestions you may have
to make our relationship more meaningful to you and your fellow Linux
users.  

 

Here's a look at what we've just published...

*	Linux Phrasebook, authored by Scott Granneman;
http://www.samspublishing.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0672328380&rl=1
*	Linux Starter Kit, authored by Emmett Dulaney;
http://www.samspublishing.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0672328879&rl=1
*	Practical Guide to Red Hat(r) Linux(r), A: Fedora(tm) Core and
Red Hat Enterprise Linux, 3rd Edition, authored by Mark G. Sobell;
http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132280272&rl=1
*	Red Hat Fedora 5 Unleashed, authored by Andrew and Paul Hudson;
http://www.samspublishing.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=067232847X&rl=1


...And some books that will publish soon.

*	AJAX: Creating Web Pages with Asynchronous JavaScript and XML,
(mid-August) authored by Edmond Woychowsky
*	Understanding AJAX: Using JavaScript to Create Rich Internet
Applications, (mid-August) authored by Joshua Eichorn;
http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132216353&rl=1
*	The Official Ubuntu Book, (early August) authored by Jono Bacon,
Corey Burger, Benjamin Mako Hill, Jonathan Jesse, Ivan Krstic;
http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1 

Feel free to browse our entire collections at the following websites:

http://www.prenhallprofessional.com <http://www.phptr/com> 

http://www.awprofessional.com <http://www.awprofessional.com/> 

http://www.samspublishing.com <http://www.samspublishing.com/> 

http://www.ibmpressbooks.com <http://www.ibmpress.com/> 

 

I look forward to hearing from you!

 

Laryssa Wirstiuk, Publicity Intern

Pearson Education (Addison-Wesley Professional/IBM Press/Prentice Hall
Professional/Que Publishing/Sams Publishing)

1 Lake Street

Upper Saddle River, NJ

(201)236-7126

laryssa.wirstiuk at pearsoned.com

 

 


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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Thu Jul 27 08:51:31 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:51:31 -0700
Subject: [buug] who wants to step up?
In-Reply-To: <20060727144454.GW30266@weak.org>
References: <20060727144454.GW30266@weak.org>
Message-ID: <1154015491.44c8e103449dd@webmail.rawbw.com>

Hmmmmm...

Perhaps myself and/or Larry - both quite regular BUUG meeting attendees,
and/or Aaron (holder of the buug.org domain).

Maybe Aaron could set up a forwarding alias on/under the buug.org
domain, and that could then forward to the appropriate e-mail
address(es).  That would have the advantages of having a "fixed"
group contact e-mail address for "users" to see/use, and would be
relatively easy to change/update.

Anyway, just some thoughts on the matter.

Quoting Jon McClintock <jammer at weak.org>:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I should probably not be the contact for this anymore...who wants to
> step up?
> 
> -Jon
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from "Wirstiuk, Laryssa"
> <Laryssa_Wirstiuk at prenhall.com> -----
> 
> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:09:33 -0400
> From: "Wirstiuk, Laryssa" <Laryssa_Wirstiuk at prenhall.com>
> Subject: Is Your Linux User Group Still Active?


From charles.paul at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 12:40:20 2006
From: charles.paul at gmail.com (Charles Paul)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:40:20 -0800
Subject: [buug] [Laryssa_Wirstiuk@prenhall.com: Is Your Linux User Group
	Still Active?]
In-Reply-To: <20060727144454.GW30266@weak.org>
References: <20060727144454.GW30266@weak.org>
Message-ID: <f720c0630607271240n62560e55kb83a076c1bd7bd7e@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, nice selection of upcoming books...

note to future buug lead contact:  i would come to a meeting to check
these books out. =D

peace charles


> ----- Forwarded message from "Wirstiuk, Laryssa" <Laryssa_Wirstiuk at prenhall.com> -----
> ...And some books that will publish soon.
>
> *       AJAX: Creating Web Pages with Asynchronous JavaScript and XML,
> (mid-August) authored by Edmond Woychowsky
> *       Understanding AJAX: Using JavaScript to Create Rich Internet
> Applications, (mid-August) authored by Joshua Eichorn;
> http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132216353&rl=1
> *       The Official Ubuntu Book, (early August) authored by Jono Bacon,
> Corey Burger, Benjamin Mako Hill, Jonathan Jesse, Ivan Krstic;
> http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
>


From jammer at weak.org  Sun Jul 30 10:21:20 2006
From: jammer at weak.org (Jon McClintock)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:21:20 -0700
Subject: [buug] who wants to step up?
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:51:31AM -0700, Michael Paoli wrote:
> Hmmmmm...
> 
> Perhaps myself and/or Larry - both quite regular BUUG meeting attendees,
> and/or Aaron (holder of the buug.org domain).
> 
> Maybe Aaron could set up a forwarding alias on/under the buug.org
> domain, and that could then forward to the appropriate e-mail
> address(es).  That would have the advantages of having a "fixed"
> group contact e-mail address for "users" to see/use, and would be
> relatively easy to change/update.

Ok, I nominate you to replace me, given that you're the only one that
responded in the affirmative. :)

Could you send me full contact info (name/email/mailing address) to 
forward on?

-Jon


From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Sun Jul 30 12:09:28 2006
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:09:28 -0700
Subject: [buug] who wants to step up?
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Michael Paoli
Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu
PO Box 11463
Berkeley, CA  94712-2463

Quoting Jon McClintock <jammer at weak.org>:

> On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 08:51:31AM -0700, Michael Paoli wrote:
> > Hmmmmm...
> > 
> > Perhaps myself and/or Larry - both quite regular BUUG meeting attendees,
> > and/or Aaron (holder of the buug.org domain).
> > 
> > Maybe Aaron could set up a forwarding alias on/under the buug.org
> > domain, and that could then forward to the appropriate e-mail
> > address(es).  That would have the advantages of having a "fixed"
> > group contact e-mail address for "users" to see/use, and would be
> > relatively easy to change/update.
> 
> Ok, I nominate you to replace me, given that you're the only one that
> responded in the affirmative. :)
> 
> Could you send me full contact info (name/email/mailing address) to 
> forward on?
> 
> -Jon