From afife at untangle.com Fri Aug 1 14:21:06 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Installfest for Schools (Next Week) Message-ID: <016101c8f41c$82fa1bf0$88ee53d0$@com> Hi Folks: This is a quick reminder that the Installfest for Schools in taking place on the expo floor at LinuxWorld next week (Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday). We've got an ambitious goal of refurbishing 1,000 older/discarded computers with GNU/Linux for schools and we need all the help we can get. Here's how you can lend a hand: 1)Help install GNU/Linux (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu or gNewSense) 2)Help breakdown bad computers to identify reusable parts 3)Donate your old computer[1] -- ACCRC will have a collection booth and can provide tax deductable receipts 4)Know a school that needs computers and is willing to try GNU/Linux desktops? Please tell us here: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_collect&task=installfestNomin ate&Itemid=1426 Also, I'm pleased to announce a little help from our friends... Mozilla and Canonical/Ubuntu are donating schwag for installfest volunteers. Creative commons has packaged CC licensed and Ogg formatted multi-media content that will be placed on each system. And No Starch Press has made another extremely cool donation of a PDF copy of "Ubuntu for non-Geeks" for EVERY computer... What a great resource for newbies! Why the installfest is cool: 1)Digital Divide: Helps get computers to children/schools in need 2)F/OSS Outreach: Helps expose new users to Free & Open Source Software 3)Environment: Helps divert thousands of pounds of toxic electronic waste from the landfill 4)Community: Is a great cause to bring the community together around Lastly, don't forget to register for the LinuxWorld Expo. The passes are free if you register in advance, but $50 onsite. Register here: https://register.rcsreg.com/regos-1.0/lnsf2008/ga/index2.html Learn more about the installfest here: http://www.untangle.com/installfest Thanks so much for your help! -Andrew References & Notes: [1]PIII and newer systems will be refurbished with Ubuntu for schools. Older systems will be recycled properly by the ACCRC. Here is a writeup of the first event: http://lwn.net/Articles/273770/ and here are some pictures: http://www.untangle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Item id=139 -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at well.com Fri Aug 1 16:12:34 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:12:34 -0700 Subject: [buug] Help the LUG booth at LinuxWorld Message-ID: <1217632354.10905.575.camel@ubuntu> if you're coming to LinuxWorld, let me know if you can spend a little time at the common LUG booth in the .Org pavilion (booth #14). Coverage is still a little too light, we can use help on all days, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Per Untangle's email re the installfest: Don't forget to register for the LinuxWorld Expo. The passes are free if you register in advance, but $50 onsite. 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Honeycutt) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:05:47 -0700 Subject: [buug] Linux World BUUG night Message-ID: <87acd5770808071605p45ef1498v5544c82ab01169e5@mail.gmail.com> So are we good for tonight's meeting? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Sun Aug 10 11:24:37 2008 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:24:37 -0700 Subject: [buug] More books for BUUG from the Pearson Education User Group Program Message-ID: <1218392677.489f326550c11@webmail.rawbw.com> These apparently arrived 2008-08-06: Ubuntu Unleashed 2008 Edition: Covering 8.04 and 8.10, 4th Edition http://www.informit.com/title/067232993X By Andrew Hudson, Paul Hudson Published Jul 10, 2008 by Sams. Part of the Unleashed series. Pages: 864 Edition: 4th. ISBN-10: 0-672-32993-X ISBN-13: 978-0-672-32993-7 and: Sams Teach Yourself PHP, MySQL and Apache All in One, 4th Edition http://www.informit.com/title/067232976X By Julie C. Meloni Published Jun 18, 2008 by Sams. Part of the Sams Teach Yourself series. Pages: 648 Edition: 4th. ISBN-10: 0-672-32976-X ISBN-13: 978-0-672-32976-0 Also, shown as BACKORDERED (B/O) and DUE 08/22/08 (probably indicating anticipated ship date of 2008-08-22): Official Ubuntu Book, The, 3rd Edition http://www.informit.com/title/0137136684 By Benjamin Mako Hill, Corey Burger, Jonathan Jesse, Jono Bacon Published Jun 20, 2008 by Prentice Hall. Pages: 512 Edition: 3rd. ISBN-10: 0-13-713668-4 ISBN-13: 978-0-13-713668-1 This past week was very busy for me (LinuxWorld + work + other stuff going on), so, sorry I didn't get this information to the list prior to the 2008-08-07 BUUG meeting. In any case, the received books made it to the 2008-08-07 BUUG meeting, the first title noted above (Ubuntu Unleashed 2008 Edition: Covering 8.04 and 8.10, 4th Edition) has already found a review home, the second title noted above (Sams Teach Yourself PHP, MySQL and Apache All in One, 4th Edition) should be making a return appearance at the 2008-08-21 BUUG meeting. I'd guestimate the third title noted above (Official Ubuntu Book, The, 3rd Edition) will likely make it to the 2008-09-04 BUUG meeting. From afife at untangle.com Mon Aug 11 10:50:07 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] Chris Dibona @ BALUG (8/19) Message-ID: <01d001c8fbda$b621f460$2265dd20$@com> Hi Folks: Chris Dibona will be speaking at BALUG next Tuesday (8/19). Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. (full bio below) So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: RSVP at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat upstairs in the private banquet room. Meeting Details... 6:30pm August 19th, 2008 (Next Tuesday) Four Seas Restaurant 731 Grant Ave. San Francisco, CA 94108 Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 Chris Dibona's full bio: Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, Ca. based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software and related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in Tech and Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan School of Management and has a masters in software engineering from Carnegie Mellon University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board of imeem, a San Francisco, Ca. based social networking firm. Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the website Slashdot.org . Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers" His personal blog can be found at http://dibona.com and he can be reached via email via chris at dibona.com -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at well.com Tue Aug 12 17:14:45 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:14:45 -0700 Subject: [buug] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday August 14, 2008: Scons by Steven Knight Message-ID: <1218586485.10905.1154.camel@ubuntu> BayPIGgies meeting Thursday August 14, 2008: Scons by Steven Knight SCons is a next-generation software build tool (that is, a replacement for Make) written in Python, with build configuration written as a Python API. Since the SCons Project was founded in 2001, it's grown into a successful project with about 7000 downloads / month and an especially strong following among software developers and build engineers working on large-scale, enterprise-quality software projects, including production use at VMware, Intel, Oracle, id Software, and Google. This talk will give a summary of the history and growth of the SCons project and an overview of SCons configuration. It will also discuss some of the more interesting aspects of SCons as a Python-based project, including why (and how) SCons still runs on Python 1.5.2, its rather distinctive approach to stringent software testing, and some of its ad-hoc solutions to the problem of trying to ship a stand-alone application that happens to be written in Python (as opposed to the distutils-installed-module model of most Python software). The talk will also include some frank discussion of SCons' limitations and problem areas, and what you (yes, you!) can do to help. About the speaker: Steven Knight has been a software engineer, executive, and would-be entrepreneur for more than 25 years at companies such as Cray Research, The MathWorks, and more networking-related startups than he can unashamedly admit. He founded the SCons Project in 2001 after its design won the Software Carpentry build tool competition the previous year. He recently transplanted to the Bay Area to work on software build issues for Google. The meeting starts with a Newbie Nugget, a short discussion of an essential Python feature, specially for those new to Python. Tonight's Newbie Nugget is... The Google App Engine: Magic Cars versus Taxis A look at what the Google App Engine delivers and how it fits into the ecosystem; getting up and running; the process of writing an application, GQL code; and some analogies, presented by Charles Merriam. Location: Google Campus Building 40, the Seville room (check in at the lobby in bldg 43) bayPIGgies meeting information: http://baypiggies.net/new/plone * Please sign up in advance to have your google access badge ready: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings (no later than close of business on Wednesday.) Agenda ..... 7:30 PM ........................... General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, any first-minute announcements. ..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM ................ Newbie Nugget Google App Engine by Charles Merriam ..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM ................ Scons by Steven Knight ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM -- After The Talk ................ Mapping and Random Access Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics the announcers are interested in. Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up individually on the announcements and other topics of interest. ..... Thursday, September 11 ................ 7:30 PM BayPIGgies Tim Thompson on Bay Area Computer Music Technology presentation on Finger Painting with Planets From afife at untangle.com Mon Aug 18 11:49:10 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] BALUG Tomorrow = Chris Dibona Message-ID: <01d001c90163$19278420$4b768c60$@com> Hi Folks: This is a quick reminder that Chris Dibona, the open source programs manager at Google, will be speaking at BALUG tomorrow. (full bio below) So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: rsvp at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat upstairs in the private banquet room. Meeting Details... 6:30pm August 19th, 2008 (Tomorrow!) Four Seas Restaurant 731 Grant Ave. San Francisco, CA 94108 Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 Chris DiBona's full bio: Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, CA based Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software and related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in Tech and Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan School of Management and has a masters in software engineering from Carnegie Mellon University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board of imeem, a San Francisco, CA based social networking firm. Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the website Slashdot.org. Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers". -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aldenm at gmail.com Wed Aug 20 10:17:56 2008 From: aldenm at gmail.com (Alden Meneses) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:17:56 -0700 Subject: [buug] BALUG Tomorrow = Chris Dibona In-Reply-To: <01d001c90163$19278420$4b768c60$@com> References: <01d001c90163$19278420$4b768c60$@com> Message-ID: <221610dc0808201017h4e1d6bechaa8d2e963ba177a2@mail.gmail.com> Just wanted to say thanks for setting up the BALUG meeting yesterday. Twas my 1st and certainly not my last. Thanks again to Chris Dibona for the informative talk on Open Source. Searching Google now for more info on Android and how to get my feet wet in that. Good people makes for a good time. Sincerely, Alden On 8/18/08, Andrew Fife wrote: > > Hi Folks: > > This is a quick reminder that Chris Dibona, the open source programs > manager at Google, will be speaking at BALUG tomorrow. (full bio below) So, > if you'd like to join us please RSVP: > > rsvp at balug.org > > **Why RSVP??** > > Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the > Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat > upstairs in the private banquet room. > > Meeting Details... > > 6:30pm > August 19th, 2008 (Tomorrow!) > > Four Seas Restaurant > 731 Grant Ave. > San Francisco, CA 94108 > Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny > > Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 > > Chris DiBona's full bio: > > Chris DiBona is the open source programs manager at Mountain View, CA based > Google, where his team oversees license compliance, promotes developer > outreach, supports the open source community through programs such as the > Google Summer of Code and oversees OSS releases on Google Code. > > Mr. DiBona is an internationally known advocate of open source software and > related methodologies. He occasionally appears on the This Week in Tech and > Cranky Geeks podcasts. He is a visiting scholar at the MIT Sloan School of > Management and has a masters in software engineering from Carnegie Mellon > University. Additionally, he serves on the advisory board of imeem, a San > Francisco, CA based social networking firm. > > Before joining Google, Mr. DiBona was an editor and author for the website > Slashdot.org. Additionally, he coedited the award-winning essay > compilations "Open Sources" and "Open Sources 2.0" and writes for several > publications. He was the host of Floss Weekly with Leo Laporte and made a > number of appearances on TechTV's "The Screensavers". > > -- > Andrew Fife > Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway > www.untangle.com/download > > 650.425.3327 desk > 415.806.6028 cell > > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll be on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or a home system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux user? Thanks for any enlightenment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jb at caustic.org Thu Aug 28 23:48:33 2008 From: jb at caustic.org (Johan Beisser) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:48:33 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32393800808282348j513a52d1q1b84a4d00ecb1123@mail.gmail.com> Take a good look at OpenVPN. I'm a big fan. On 8/28/08, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? I'll be > on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu > 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the > solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or a home > system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. > > Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux user? > > Thanks for any enlightenment. > From adam at akarsoft.com Thu Aug 28 23:51:17 2008 From: adam at akarsoft.com (D. Adam Karim) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:51:17 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use something like this connecting to my OpenBSD server from my MackBook Pro when I'm on the road. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_VPN_over_SSH_and_tun D. Adam Karim adam at akarsoft.com On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? > I'll be > on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running > Ubuntu > 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the > solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or > a home > system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. > > Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux > user? > > Thanks for any enlightenment. > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug From jzitt at josephzitt.com Fri Aug 29 00:56:40 2008 From: jzitt at josephzitt.com (Joseph Zitt) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:56:40 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Both recommendations seem quite good in theory, but they seem to need a server that I control. While I have some hosted sites at 1and1, I'm limited in the amount of administration that's allowed. I also don't currently have a system at home or work that I can use as a server. Are there ways around this, or hosts that would support this for free or inexpensively? On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM, D. Adam Karim wrote: > I use something like this connecting to my OpenBSD server from my MackBook > Pro when I'm on the road. > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_VPN_over_SSH_and_tun > > > D. Adam Karim > adam at akarsoft.com > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? I'll be >> on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu >> 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the >> solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or a >> home >> system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. >> >> Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux user? >> >> Thanks for any enlightenment. >> _______________________________________________ >> Buug mailing list >> Buug at weak.org >> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at akarsoft.com Fri Aug 29 06:07:00 2008 From: adam at akarsoft.com (D. Adam Karim) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:07:00 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <5F4EA806-8993-4B2C-BC56-93FF07551165@me.com> Then how about Tor? --- D. Adam Karim Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2008, at 12:56 AM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Both recommendations seem quite good in theory, but they seem to > need a server that I control. While I have some hosted sites at > 1and1, I'm limited in the amount of administration that's allowed. I > also don't currently have a system at home or work that I can use as > a server. > > Are there ways around this, or hosts that would support this for > free or inexpensively? > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM, D. Adam Karim > wrote: > I use something like this connecting to my OpenBSD server from my > MackBook Pro when I'm on the road. > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_VPN_over_SSH_and_tun > > > D. Adam Karim > adam at akarsoft.com > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? > I'll be > on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running > Ubuntu > 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the > solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or > a home > system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. > > Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux > user? > > Thanks for any enlightenment. > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jb at caustic.org Fri Aug 29 07:26:26 2008 From: jb at caustic.org (Johan Beisser) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:26:26 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <32393800808290726y17f07349ueef9b1a6fccb0cf5@mail.gmail.com> Tor may work, but presume your exit node is hostile. Google did, for a while, offer a proxy/VPN service. Me? I'd consider making a custom EC2 image, and writing a startup/shutdown script that'll also open the inbound ports for ssh, openvpn, etc. AWS is cheap, if used sparingly. On 8/29/08, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Both recommendations seem quite good in theory, but they seem to need a > server that I control. While I have some hosted sites at 1and1, I'm limited > in the amount of administration that's allowed. I also don't currently have > a system at home or work that I can use as a server. > > Are there ways around this, or hosts that would support this for free or > inexpensively? > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:51 PM, D. Adam Karim wrote: > >> I use something like this connecting to my OpenBSD server from my MackBook >> Pro when I'm on the road. >> >> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_VPN_over_SSH_and_tun >> >> >> D. Adam Karim >> adam at akarsoft.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? I'll >> be >>> on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu >>> 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Most of the >>> solutions that I've seen require either Windows (such as HotSpot) or a >>> home >>> system to use as a host, neither of which will be available to me. >>> >>> Are there good (preferably libre and gratis) solutions for a Linux user? >>> >>> Thanks for any enlightenment. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Buug mailing list >>> Buug at weak.org >>> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug >>> >> >> > From atporter at primate.net Fri Aug 29 09:20:31 2008 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron Porter) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:20:31 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:09:23PM -0700, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? I'll be > on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu > 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. Secure access from what to what? If you don't have a "home network" to connect to, what communications are you trying to protect? From aldenm at gmail.com Fri Aug 29 13:06:19 2008 From: aldenm at gmail.com (Alden Meneses) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:06:19 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> References: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> Message-ID: <221610dc0808291306nb336512wf5f689c41d74e764@mail.gmail.com> Yes Aaron brought up a good point. What are you trying to access where a VPN is necessary is the first question you need to ask yourself? Are there files on your home PC that you want to access? If you don't want to use a "server" then you may want to look at your firewall/router to see if it has VPN capabilities. If VPN is not an option you can also use SSH to access your workstation from the NET. You will need to know your external IP adress of the router or use one of the many DNS services so that you can have a domain name to your network. Hope that helps, Alden On 8/29/08, Aaron Porter wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:09:23PM -0700, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > Does anyone have any recommendations for VPN tunneling or hosting? I'll > be > > on the road for a bit, getting online with my Asus Eee 710 running Ubuntu > > 8.04, and would like more secure access from cafes, etc. > > Secure access from what to what? If you don't have a "home > network" to connect to, what communications are you trying to protect? > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atporter at primate.net Fri Aug 29 13:59:58 2008 From: atporter at primate.net (Aaron Porter) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:59:58 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: References: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> Message-ID: <20080829205958.GW6760@primate.net> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 12:01:35PM -0700, Joseph Zitt wrote: > Well, I think I'd mostly like to have something in general more protected > for when my communications are going over cafe WiFi. If that's your concern, then TOR is in fact a good bet. If you don't trust that enough (for your non-encrypted, going over the public net anyway traffic), it's always good to remember that just about *any* host you can SSH to can be turned into a quick and dirty web proxy (ssh -D + Foxyproxy). From jb at caustic.org Fri Aug 29 12:24:19 2008 From: jb at caustic.org (johan beisser) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:24:19 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> References: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> Message-ID: <9994BD24-2AD9-43F8-9285-C0FE04CC14C3@caustic.org> On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:20 AM, Aaron Porter wrote: > Secure access from what to what? If you don't have a "home > network" to connect to, what communications are you trying to protect? I'd assumed protection/security against local (in cafe/hotspot) sniffers vs transit or endpoint attackers. From jb at caustic.org Fri Aug 29 14:35:59 2008 From: jb at caustic.org (johan beisser) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:35:59 -0700 Subject: [buug] VPN hosting and access? In-Reply-To: <20080829205958.GW6760@primate.net> References: <20080829162030.GV6760@primate.net> <20080829205958.GW6760@primate.net> Message-ID: On Aug 29, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Aaron Porter wrote: > If that's your concern, then TOR is in fact a good bet. If you > don't trust that enough (for your non-encrypted, going over the > public net > anyway traffic), it's always good to remember that just about *any* > host > you can SSH to can be turned into a quick and dirty web proxy (ssh - > D + > Foxyproxy). Yeah, I've used ssh.. rather heavily. Even the -D option, and with the tunnel interface options. Tor isn't so much a VPN or security system, as much as a way to disguise your location, preventing the site or next hop from knowing where you are. The assumption I make is that the exit node is going to be monitoring and viewing your network traffic anyway. Net result is that you're slowing down your network access and increasing packetloss for a false sense of security. You really shouldn't use it without also encrypting the traffic that's going through the tor gateway. The idea is that your attacker can't backtrace the route from the exit node back to where you are (N+1 routers back). That said, I run OpenVPN, and use the first hop router through the tunneled link as my default gateway (technically, "route add 0/1 "). IMs, non-local/broadcast traffic, etc, goes out through that tunnel. Local traffic stays local, everyone benefits, and my ssh sessions generally won't drop for a good long while since they're relayed through a remote router that I control. There's multiple benefits to doing the VPN method, basically. Naturally, getting a remote system you trust is the first part of it.