From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Thu May 1 13:03:51 2008 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:03:51 -0700 Subject: [buug] books: another free book (_Learning the bash Shell_) and ... Message-ID: <1209672231.481a222703f0d@webmail.rawbw.com> books: another free book (_Learning the bash Shell_) and ... I've got a book to give away: _Learning the bash Shell_ Cmeron Newham & Bill Rosehblatt O'Reilly http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/bash3/index.html Free to the first person who wants it and meets me at a place of my convenience when I have the book with me (e.g. BUUG meeting this evening). Don't even have to feel obligated to write a review (I fairly recently found this one on the streets in Berkeley - seems to be in perfectly good shape aside from a bit of staining (tea/coffee?) around the edges of some pages and a bit of wear on some page corners.) And yes, it is even the current edition! Also, making a repeat appearance (from the Pearson Education User Group Program, and yes they'd love a review written up): _Fedora Unleashed_, 2008 Edition by Andrew Hudson and Paul Hudson; http://www.informit.com/title/0672329778 references: http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-April/003019.html From afife at untangle.com Wed May 14 23:04:17 2008 From: afife at untangle.com (Andrew Fife) Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [buug] BALUG Dinner: WiFi Mesh Networking (Tuesday) Message-ID: <01a101c8b651$79b83260$4101a8c0@afmeatloaf> Howdy Folks: Balug on Tuesday will host a new speaker, Thomas Belote. Tom will be talking about wireless mesh networking. As a grad student at San Jose State, Thomas has worked on Wireless Mesh Networking and Mobile Ad Hoc Networking. His talk will compare solutions like OLSR and Microsoft's semi open source Mesh Connectivity Layer (that doesn't run on Linux). He will discuss why WDS is not sufficient and a mesh protocol is needed, and discuss the lack of openness thus far in 802.11s even though it is included in the OLPC, as well as security issues and implications. If you'd like to come, please RSVP: RSVP at balug.org Meeting Details... 6:30pm April 20th, 2008 (Tuesday) Four Seas Restaurant 731 Grant Ave. San Francisco, CA 94108 Easy $5 Parking: http://www.portsmouthsquaregarage.com/ Cost = $13 for dinner, but the meeting itself is free Upcoming 2008 speakers include: June - Andrew Morton (Linux Kernel) July - Mike Linksyaver (Creative Commons) Aug - TBD Sept - Ian Murdock (Debian & Sun) Signup for BALUG's extremely low volume announce list: http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-announce-balug.org About BALUG: ------------ BALUG is lively gathering of Linux users & free software enthusiasts that combines great food, community & intimate access to featured speakers. We meet in the bar of the Four Seas Restaurant from 6:30pm. At 7pm, we share a family-style Chinese dinner, which is followed by our guest speaker. BALUG Mailing list Policy: -------------------------- BALUG promises not to abuse other LUGs mailing lists. Our current policy is to make one monthly announcement on other Bay Area LUGs mailing lists. If you feel this is not appropriate for a particular list, please tell us which list and what you feel would be a more appropriate policy for that list. Please send feedback to balug-contact at balug.org. -- Andrew Fife Untangle - The Open Source Network Gateway www.untangle.com/download 650.425.3327 desk 415.806.6028 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 20 02:52:46 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 02:52:46 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berkeley Installfest volunteers? June 7 Saturday? Message-ID: <1211277166.20169.1254098433@webmail.messagingengine.com> I think Berkeley needs a BSD GNU/Linux installfest. 1st Saturday of the month, ~12Noon to 6PM. That completes the other 3 Saturdays - SVLUG & CABAL. It should be within 1 mile of campus to be convenient to students. Maybe also have a 1 hour lecture/talk. Maybe even have a pot-luck food thing, ala CABAL. I'm not sure if it should be an enthusiasts only event, or also an outreach event. Outreach would be like have it at People's park, or at the Ashby flea market. I suspect that is too much to aim for initially. So, anyone here interested in assisting for the tasks necessary to get it going? 1) web page - could be on buug.org 2) mailing list 3) location search & approval 4) announcements to user groups, other media, companies, etc 5) put-luck or barbecue organizing (bring a barbecue & charcoal. I think in order to avoid financial burden on the organizer, we should ask everyone to donate $1- for the briquettes, lighter fluid, etc.) Maybe this should wait till we get an idea of how many people might attend. 6) speaker arranging 7) Request attendees to RSVP with an estimate of the probability they think they will attend - 25 50 75 100% - so we get an advance indication of the estimate of likely attendance. Should it be indoor, or outdoor during the summer? Maybe in the closed in grassy area by the Hearst pool gym CS buildings? Soda Hall? Dwinelle? Berk Library? A local computer store? ISP? The park near Shattuck & Rose? A berkeley school? Berk High School? The park by city hall? ??? - Power & Net access requirements? An interesting thought would be to have it at ACCRC, should they be interested, but a big downside is that students would likely find that too far to be reasonable. We could target June 7th 2008, Saturday, for the first event. It would be great to do even if we don't have all the items arranged for June. What could you help out with? What suggestions do you have??? -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free From windsor.schmidt at gmail.com Tue May 20 14:10:19 2008 From: windsor.schmidt at gmail.com (Windsor Schmidt) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:10:19 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest Message-ID: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> Hi, my name is Windsor; this is my first post to the list (Ubuntu/AMDx64). I'd like to volunteer to help if an install-fest is organized. I'm all-around handy (installs, troubleshooting, charring flesh, etc). I think a location with power and some shade (if outside) are the main requirements. Access to potable water is nice if food is involved. -W From oly562 at charter.net Tue May 20 16:15:09 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:15:09 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest In-Reply-To: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48335B7D.2000606@charter.net> Thats not to much to ask for I think ;) Windsor Schmidt wrote: > Hi, my name is Windsor; this is my first post to the list (Ubuntu/AMDx64). > > I'd like to volunteer to help if an install-fest is organized. I'm > all-around handy (installs, troubleshooting, charring flesh, etc). > > I think a location with power and some shade (if outside) are the main > requirements. 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Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 20 17:41:59 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:41:59 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest In-Reply-To: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:10:19 -0700, "Windsor Schmidt" said: > Hi, my name is Windsor; this is my first post to the list > (Ubuntu/AMDx64). Welcome to buug :) > > I'd like to volunteer to help if an install-fest is organized. I'm > all-around handy (installs, troubleshooting, charring flesh, etc). Thanks. Your skills will be valued! > > I think a location with power and some shade (if outside) are the main > requirements. Access to potable water is nice if food is involved. Are you close enough to Berkeley to assist with location evaluation/selection/finding/planning, etc? One nice thing about being at Soda hall or the CS portables near Bancroft ave is there are greenery, power, INet, restrooms, chairs, drinking fountains, etc. I think there is a barbecue grill stored in Soda hall. (we'll probably need a campus sponsor for inet & facilities permission - anyone have any likely contacts/suggestions?) Even though I'm a UCB EECS grad, I'd kinda like to avoid the Soda, Cory, Engineering area. Nice to have a non-engineering venue. Also might like to have something convenient to non cs-engineering people, perhaps making it easier & more likely for general users to move up to BSD-GNU/Linux. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are From oly562 at charter.net Tue May 20 20:24:29 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest In-Reply-To: <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <483395ED.60100@charter.net> I have been receiving these emails since like 2 years now it seems, and I like to see more than just buug alerts. Nice to see that there is a user group out there for I live in Long Beach, Ca. Anyfoo, I use Freebsd, and currently Redhat Os. I have most of my services running on Freebsd, and just lately run a windowless network here at home. Funny I comment after so long... hopefully I don't catch too much slack. I am currently running snort, and oinkmaster for like um... 3 years? I don't know. I just set the cron to update the rules daily and run an old satan perl script against alerts. no big, fun to watch. Have a nice day, not much else to say at present, but keep up the good work. Oly Ander... aka Pete john_re wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:10:19 -0700, "Windsor Schmidt" > said: > >> Hi, my name is Windsor; this is my first post to the list >> (Ubuntu/AMDx64). >> > > Welcome to buug :) > > >> I'd like to volunteer to help if an install-fest is organized. I'm >> all-around handy (installs, troubleshooting, charring flesh, etc). >> > > Thanks. Your skills will be valued! > > >> I think a location with power and some shade (if outside) are the main >> requirements. Access to potable water is nice if food is involved. >> > > Are you close enough to Berkeley to assist with location > evaluation/selection/finding/planning, etc? > > One nice thing about being at Soda hall or the CS portables near > Bancroft ave is there are greenery, power, INet, restrooms, chairs, > drinking fountains, etc. I think there is a barbecue grill stored in > Soda hall. (we'll probably need a campus sponsor for inet & facilities > permission - anyone have any likely contacts/suggestions?) > > Even though I'm a UCB EECS grad, I'd kinda like to avoid the Soda, Cory, > Engineering area. Nice to have a non-engineering venue. Also might > like to have something convenient to non cs-engineering people, perhaps > making it easier & more likely for general users to move up to > BSD-GNU/Linux. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 20 22:00:39 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:00:39 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest In-Reply-To: <483395ED.60100@charter.net> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483395ED.60100@charter.net> Message-ID: <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700, "PR" said: > I have been receiving these emails since like 2 years now it seems, and > I like to see more than just buug alerts. Nice to see that there is a > user group out there for I live in Long Beach, Ca. Welcome. How did you find & decide to join BUUG? Are you a member of any Long Beach area in person groups? You can head up the Long Beach branch of the installfest. ;) > Anyfoo, I use Freebsd, and currently Redhat Os. I have most of my > services running on Freebsd, and just lately run a windowless network > here at home. > > Funny I comment after so long... hopefully I don't catch too much slack. I wouldn't want to catch a slackware virus either! ;) > > I am currently running snort, and oinkmaster for like um... 3 years? I > don't know. I just set the cron to update the rules daily and run an old > satan perl script against alerts. no big, fun to watch. > > Have a nice day, not much else to say at present, but keep up the good > work. Thank you. > > Oly Ander... aka Pete -- -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? From oly562 at charter.net Wed May 21 08:06:40 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:06:40 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest In-Reply-To: <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483395ED.60100@charter.net> <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <48343A80.7010803@charter.net> Sounds fun, what do I do. I can assume but I'm pretty new to this sort of Lan party. ;) It's an install fest, sound interesting enough to try lol. thanks, let me know. l8 Oly john_re wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700, "PR" said: > >> I have been receiving these emails since like 2 years now it seems, and >> I like to see more than just buug alerts. Nice to see that there is a >> user group out there for I live in Long Beach, Ca. >> > > Welcome. How did you find & decide to join BUUG? Are you a member of > any Long Beach area in person groups? > > You can head up the Long Beach branch of the installfest. ;) > > >> Anyfoo, I use Freebsd, and currently Redhat Os. I have most of my >> services running on Freebsd, and just lately run a windowless network >> here at home. >> >> Funny I comment after so long... hopefully I don't catch too much slack. >> > > I wouldn't want to catch a slackware virus either! ;) > > >> I am currently running snort, and oinkmaster for like um... 3 years? I >> don't know. I just set the cron to update the rules daily and run an old >> satan perl script against alerts. no big, fun to watch. >> >> Have a nice day, not much else to say at present, but keep up the good >> work. >> > > Thank you. > > >> Oly Ander... aka Pete >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also, if you care to answer, I'm interested in the answer to the question below: > > It's an install fest, sound interesting enough to try lol. thanks, let > me know. > john_re wrote: > > On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700, "PR" said: > > Welcome. How did you find & decide to join BUUG? Are you a member of > > any Long Beach area in person groups? Best wishes. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web From oly562 at charter.net Thu May 22 09:37:16 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:37:16 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest - hope this helps. In-Reply-To: <1211442737.16222.1254496627@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483395ED.60100@charter.net> <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> <48343A80.7010803@charter.net> <1211442737.16222.1254496627@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4835A13C.1030308@charter.net> opps, forgot. Ok i joined this email distro from a previous persons email. I forgot my now, but it's been a while since I got my first email. I dumped all my old windows client'd mail. so to be quite honest, I do not truly remember how or why I joined. I am on a few distro's for snort lists, bugs, announcements, so forth, ya know the typical email user group yammer. I am not part of any group or org or affiliated with any user groups other than some emails i receive for security products. Hope this helps ;) oly ander, aka pete john_re wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:06:40 -0700, "PR" said: > >> Sounds fun, what do I do. I can assume but I'm pretty new to this sort >> of Lan party. ;) >> > > If this takes off, I'd like to video stream some talks we'd have (I'll > post info to BUUG about than tomorrow hopefully), so other locations can > learn that info. > > Do you think there might be interest in your area in a get > together/installfest where attendees could here talks of current > interest? > > Also, if you care to answer, I'm interested in the answer to the > question below: > >> It's an install fest, sound interesting enough to try lol. thanks, let >> me know. >> > > >> john_re wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:24:29 -0700, "PR" said: >>> > > >>> Welcome. How did you find & decide to join BUUG? Are you a member of >>> any Long Beach area in person groups? >>> > > Best wishes. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I dumped all my old windows client'd mail. so to be quite honest, > I do not truly remember how or why I joined. I am on a few distro's for > snort lists, bugs, announcements, so forth, ya know the typical email > user group yammer. I am not part of any group or org or affiliated with > any user groups other than some emails i receive for security products. > > Hope this helps ;) Cool. Are there any Long Beach area BSD/GNU/Linux groups? And, this question: [ ;) ] > john_re wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:06:40 -0700, "PR" said: > > If this takes off, I'd like to video stream some talks we'd have (I'll > > post info to BUUG about than tomorrow hopefully), so other locations can > > learn that info. > > > > Do you think there might be interest in your area in a get > > together/installfest where attendees could here talks of current > > interest? > > > > Also, if you care to answer, I'm interested in the answer to the > > question below: -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service From oly562 at charter.net Thu May 22 19:40:57 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:40:57 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest - hope this helps. In-Reply-To: <1211506461.5076.1254657573@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483395ED.60100@charter.net> <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> <48343A80.7010803@charter.net> <1211442737.16222.1254496627@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4835A13C.1030308@charter.net> <1211506461.5076.1254657573@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <48362EB9.3050701@charter.net> i havent seen any, they are hiding. i used to have a few buddies who were nixan warriors, but i don't see them anymore. out of the game. << i freebsd, centos currently. Ohhh and i just loaded VirtualBox by sun on my lappy, to use Opensolaris. pretty nifty this virtualization people are getting all excited about. john_re wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2008 09:37:16 -0700, "PR" said: > >> opps, forgot. Ok i joined this email distro from a previous persons >> email. I forgot my now, but it's been a while since I got my first >> email. I dumped all my old windows client'd mail. so to be quite honest, >> I do not truly remember how or why I joined. I am on a few distro's for >> snort lists, bugs, announcements, so forth, ya know the typical email >> user group yammer. I am not part of any group or org or affiliated with >> any user groups other than some emails i receive for security products. >> >> Hope this helps ;) >> > > Cool. Are there any Long Beach area BSD/GNU/Linux groups? > > And, this question: [ ;) ] > >> john_re wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:06:40 -0700, "PR" said: >>> > > >>> If this takes off, I'd like to video stream some talks we'd have (I'll >>> post info to BUUG about than tomorrow hopefully), so other locations can >>> learn that info. >>> >>> Do you think there might be interest in your area in a get >>> together/installfest where attendees could here talks of current >>> interest? >>> >>> Also, if you care to answer, I'm interested in the answer to the >>> question below: >>> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Looking on a map I see LongBeach is about 20 miles from LA. I don't know how slow the traffic on the freeways is there. Are you referring to the entire LA area, or just LongBeach? Are there any n_x groups that meet in the entire 50 mile radius from LA? -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? From john_re at fastmail.us Thu May 22 21:06:13 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 21:06:13 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berkeley Installfest, Talks, Potluck- 1) Structure Message-ID: <1211515573.8502.1254672155@webmail.messagingengine.com> OK, we've got 3 people who have volunteered to help on this (one in LongBeach). That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else interested in _attending_? This is part 1 of 2 emails. This is some specifics about the proposed basics of the event (and a request for your improving suggestions). Part2 (following email) is about "are you interested in attending". ===== The plan would be to hold a get together each month on the first Saturday (or maybe Sunday?), perhaps 12N-6PM. In Berkeley (or maybe San Francisco?). It should be a fun & educational & productive & social event. It would have 3 parts: 1) Installfest - new & experienced users welcome. 2) Talks (perhaps four to six talks of 15min to 1hr each about Distros, Kernel, Hardware, ApplicationSW, Programming, etc) 3) PotLuck - bring some food, maybe barbecue, talk about whatever. Maybe we could video stream the talks to other groups around the world who could hold similar events in their locality. For the 1st meeting (tentatively June 7 Sat) some talk possibilities are: 1) Difference between Ubuntu8.4 & Debian 2) OLPC - Sugar OS project 3) Google Summer of Code - how you can help 4) PGP & personal keysigning 5) Mozilla 3 - the beta's features & how to help - the "show me the code" session? 6) Python08 conference highlights 7) LinuxPicnic (in SiValley) preparations/planning/how to help What other topics are hot now & would be good to have talks on? What would you like to hear a talk on? Would you like to _give_ a talk? What subject? Would anyone like to volunteer to be speaker coordinator? Perhaps there's a way to let speaker suggestion & selection be done by the group. Just post ideas/speakers to the group maillist, & if some # (2? 5?) of people reply saying "yes", then that speaker is OK'd by the group to present. What suggestions to implement or improve these ideas do you have? ----- Next: Please read the following RSVP% email, & respond. Thank you. :) -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. From john_re at fastmail.us Thu May 22 21:10:15 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 21:10:15 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % Message-ID: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> OK, we've got 3 people who have volunteered to help on this (one in LongBeach). That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else interested in _attending_? If you think you at least _might_ come to the BITP, please reply to this message stating your best current estimate of the probability you'd attend on Saturday Jun 7, using probability of 25 50 75 or 100 %, & PUT your % # IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. (Thankyou) (Equation between probability % and english language concepts: 25 = small possibility 50 = maybe 75 = more likely than not 100 = definitely ) This will help us as a guide to determining if this event is feasable, & planning if yes. Maybe if there's not enough interest for having it in Berkeley, we could see if holding it in, say, San Francisco might make it a more viable event. Also, would you be more likely to attend if it was in SanFran or Berk? Thank you. :) [Also, please read Part1 Structure email, if you haven't yet. Thx.] -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be From oly562 at charter.net Fri May 23 08:14:17 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:14:17 -0700 Subject: [buug] Install-fest - hope this helps. In-Reply-To: <1211515303.7684.1254672859@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <48333E3B.1040600@gmail.com> <1211330519.704.1254250537@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483395ED.60100@charter.net> <1211346039.11589.1254280357@webmail.messagingengine.com> <48343A80.7010803@charter.net> <1211442737.16222.1254496627@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4835A13C.1030308@charter.net> <1211506461.5076.1254657573@webmail.messagingengine.com> <48362EB9.3050701@charter.net> <1211515303.7684.1254672859@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4836DF49.8070202@charter.net> I did a quick google. and there are a few, one is a wardriver meetup, and others mention long beach. as for knowing them or anyone personally. no i don't. i haven't had time to do any extra work like that. matter of fact, lan party's are hard to come by these days, unless you know someone or a friend. john_re wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2008 19:40:57 -0700, "PR" said: > >> i havent seen any, they are hiding. i used to have a few buddies who >> were nixan warriors, but i don't see them anymore. out of the game. >> > > Looking on a map I see LongBeach is about 20 miles from LA. I don't know > how slow the traffic on the freeways is there. Are you referring to the > entire LA area, or just LongBeach? Are there any n_x groups that meet in > the entire 50 mile radius from LA? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oly562 at charter.net Fri May 23 08:25:55 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 08:25:55 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berkeley Installfest, Talks, Potluck- 1) Structure In-Reply-To: <1211515573.8502.1254672155@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1211515573.8502.1254672155@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4836E203.60900@charter.net> I just found a cool site, imagine what a few minutes of googling can produce ;) anyfoo,,, if you havent heard, this seems to be the site to find out meetings all over the world. www.meetup.com have a peek. see if this site works as a resource Oly john_re wrote: > OK, we've got 3 people who have volunteered to help on this (one in > LongBeach). That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else > interested in _attending_? > > This is part 1 of 2 emails. This is some specifics about the proposed > basics of the event (and a request for your improving suggestions). > Part2 (following email) is about "are you interested in attending". > > ===== > The plan would be to hold a get together each month on the first > Saturday (or maybe Sunday?), perhaps 12N-6PM. In Berkeley (or maybe San > Francisco?). > > It should be a fun & educational & productive & social event. > > It would have 3 parts: > 1) Installfest - new & experienced users welcome. > 2) Talks (perhaps four to six talks of 15min to 1hr each > about Distros, Kernel, Hardware, ApplicationSW, Programming, etc) > 3) PotLuck - bring some food, maybe barbecue, talk about whatever. > > Maybe we could video stream the talks to other groups around the world > who could hold similar events in their locality. > > For the 1st meeting (tentatively June 7 Sat) some talk possibilities > are: > 1) Difference between Ubuntu8.4 & Debian > 2) OLPC - Sugar OS project > 3) Google Summer of Code - how you can help > 4) PGP & personal keysigning > 5) Mozilla 3 - the beta's features & how to help > - the "show me the code" session? > 6) Python08 conference highlights > 7) LinuxPicnic (in SiValley) preparations/planning/how to help > > What other topics are hot now & would be good to have talks on? > What would you like to hear a talk on? > Would you like to _give_ a talk? What subject? > > Would anyone like to volunteer to be speaker coordinator? > Perhaps there's a way to let speaker suggestion & selection be done by > the group. Just post ideas/speakers to the group maillist, & if some # > (2? 5?) of people reply saying "yes", then that speaker is OK'd by the > group to present. > > What suggestions to implement or improve these ideas do you have? > > ----- > Next: Please read the following RSVP% email, & respond. > > Thank you. :) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else > interested in _attending_? > > If you think you at least _might_ come to the BITP, > please reply to this message > stating your best current estimate > of the probability you'd attend on Saturday Jun 7, > using probability of 25 50 75 or 100 %, > & PUT your % # IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. (Thankyou) > > (Equation between probability % and english language concepts: > 25 = small possibility > 50 = maybe > 75 = more likely than not > 100 = definitely ) > > This will help us as a guide to determining if this event is feasable, & > planning if yes. > > Maybe if there's not enough interest for having it in Berkeley, we could > see if holding it in, say, San Francisco might make it a more viable > event. > > Also, would you be more likely to attend if it was in SanFran or Berk? > > Thank you. :) > > [Also, please read Part1 Structure email, if you haven't yet. Thx.] > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Sun May 25 22:24:43 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:24:43 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> Message-ID: <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: > send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. thanks! will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. > june 7th correct? yes im in long beach, but remain here. not able to > travel anytime soon. justa heads up. also, the topics sound advanced, i > have heard of most in passing. anyfoo. just checking out the schedules, > seeing if there is anything I can contribute knowledge wise that you all > haven't heard before lol. It will be a great contribution if you are able to test out receiving a video stream. > > also i think i found this group through freebsd some how, starting to > come back lol > Oly > > john_re wrote: > > OK, we've got 3 people who have volunteered to help on this (one in > > LongBeach). That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else > > interested in _attending_? -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again From john_re at fastmail.us Sun May 25 22:31:15 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:31:15 -0700 Subject: [buug] 080607 RSVP=100% Message-ID: <1211779875.16603.1255052169@webmail.messagingengine.com> That's all there is to doing the RSVP, folks. [The subject like indicates that for the 080607 1st Saturday of June meeting I RSVP 100% that I'll be there.] If you think you might attend, please send a msg to this list with a subject like on this msg. That will greatly help planning. Thank you. ----- If you think you at least _might_ come to the BITP, please reply to this message stating your best current estimate of the probability you'd attend on Saturday Jun 7, using probability of 25 50 75 or 100 %, & PUT your % # IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. (Thankyou) (Equation between probability % and english language concepts: 25 = small possibility 50 = maybe 75 = more likely than not 100 = definitely ) -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different From windsor.schmidt at gmail.com Mon May 26 00:22:45 2008 From: windsor.schmidt at gmail.com (Windsor Schmidt) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:45 -0700 Subject: [buug] RSVP InstallFest: 100% all systems go Message-ID: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> Unless weather turns horrible (I cycle from Oakland), I'll show up to help out and meet some fellow unixers. -Windsor From john_re at fastmail.us Mon May 26 15:17:49 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:17:49 -0700 Subject: [buug] RSVP InstallFest: 100% all systems go In-Reply-To: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> References: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211840269.6162.1255163589@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:45 -0700, "Windsor Schmidt" said: > Unless weather turns horrible (I cycle from Oakland), I'll show up to > help out and meet some fellow unixers. Cool. I look forward to seeing you there. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow From kwgoodman at gmail.com Mon May 26 15:27:52 2008 From: kwgoodman at gmail.com (Keith Goodman) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:27:52 -0700 Subject: [buug] 080607 RSVP=75% Message-ID: Sounds fun. From lee.shoe at gmail.com Mon May 26 17:16:26 2008 From: lee.shoe at gmail.com (Timothy L Shores) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:16:26 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) RSVP =75% Message-ID: <1211847386.6961.7.camel@shoebox> June 7 is one of the few saturday afternoons i have free this summer, until September, and since I'm a newbie in search of wider, more local avenues of linux activity, it's lucky for me that you're considering this date. i'm not full 100% because i am scheduled to work from home that morning, on the hook until 1 PM, and though rare, it can and has gone much longer. i live in Berkeley, on holy hill, and would like it best if meet-up were in or near Berkeley. i recall someone mentioned the ACCRC as a possible venue, which i think would be very cool. given its distance down the hill, i offer to assist by carpooling 3 others (honda civic). thanks for organizing this, tim shores -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It really helps for planning. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web From john_re at fastmail.us Mon May 26 22:52:05 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 22:52:05 -0700 Subject: [buug] RSVP InstallFest: 100% all systems go In-Reply-To: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> References: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1211867525.23413.1255207449@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:45 -0700, "Windsor Schmidt" said: > Unless weather turns horrible (I cycle from Oakland), I'll show up to > help out and meet some fellow unixers. I have a bike riding friend in Oakland who's come to a number of GNU/Linux related events at UCB. What part of Oakland will you be riding from? Perhaps you & he could organize the "Bike to Installfest" contingent. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin From john_re at fastmail.us Mon May 26 23:08:12 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:08:12 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) RSVP =75% In-Reply-To: <1211847386.6961.7.camel@shoebox> References: <1211847386.6961.7.camel@shoebox> Message-ID: <1211868492.25982.1255207809@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Mon, 26 May 2008 17:16:26 -0700, "Timothy L Shores" said: > June 7 is one of the few saturday afternoons i have free this summer, > until September, and since I'm a newbie in search of wider, more local > avenues of linux activity, it's lucky for me that you're considering > this date. i'm not full 100% because i am scheduled to work from home > that morning, on the hook until 1 PM, and though rare, it can and has > gone much longer. Thanks for RSVPing with a %. I hope you can make it. &, don't worry if you can only make it for part of the time. There are no particular time requirements for attendance - anyone can come for as much or little of the event as they desire. > > i live in Berkeley, on holy hill, and would like it best if meet-up were > in or near Berkeley. i recall someone mentioned the ACCRC as a possible > venue, which i think would be very cool. given its distance down the > hill, i offer to assist by carpooling 3 others (honda civic). That was me (the person who's organizing this) who mentioned ACCRC. On the positive hand, it's a great place, James Burgette(sp?) who runs it is a great guy, they help reuse equipment which is good environmentally & socially, and IIRC, they already have volunteers coming down each weekend to help with refurbishing, & they have (slow by Jim's statement) inet access. On the negative hand, I really want to make this event easily accessible to especially students. During the recent "installfest for schools" there, I announced the event to UCB students, & at least one who attended (& was glad he did) told me it was time wise very taxing getting down & back without a vehicle. My conclusion based on all the facts so far: Have it on or very close to UCB campus, not down at ACCRC. ps: I'm working to get a campus sponsor, & a campus location, this week. I'll have a post or two to this list about that in a day or two. > > thanks for organizing this, Thanks for the thanks. And thank you for your interest. > tim shores > -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? From oly562 at charter.net Tue May 27 08:04:55 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:04:55 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> I have quite a few video client players to test on my linux lappy. i need a url, ip, port, so forth, authentication, keys? let me know. tanks, :) john_re wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: > >> send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. thanks! >> > will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. > > >> june 7th correct? yes im in long beach, but remain here. not able to >> travel anytime soon. justa heads up. also, the topics sound advanced, i >> have heard of most in passing. anyfoo. just checking out the schedules, >> seeing if there is anything I can contribute knowledge wise that you all >> haven't heard before lol. >> > It will be a great contribution if you are able to test out receiving a > video stream. > > >> also i think i found this group through freebsd some how, starting to >> come back lol >> Oly >> >> john_re wrote: >> >>> OK, we've got 3 people who have volunteered to help on this (one in >>> LongBeach). That's enough to move to the question - is anyone else >>> interested in _attending_? >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Tue May 27 15:43:52 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:43:52 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> Message-ID: <1211928232.14853.1255370797@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:04:55 -0700, "PR" said: > I have quite a few video client players to test on my linux lappy. i > need a url, ip, port, so forth, authentication, keys? let me know. tanks, > :) Great question. I'll send a post or two about doint the videocasting in a few days hopefully. Partly that will be a request for suggestions about what sw to use to send & rcv the videocast - so anything you know or learn about good ways to do that will be of benefit to the group. Do you (or anyone reading this list) have any suggestions on that topic? Video streaming? MPlayver vlc, mythtv ? I'm gonna invite a friend to this list shortly who will probably have some good suggestions on this topic. > > john_re wrote: > > On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: > > > >> send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. thanks! > >> > > will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different From luis.f.gonzalez at earthlink.net Tue May 27 17:57:35 2008 From: luis.f.gonzalez at earthlink.net (Luis F. Gonzalez) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [buug] RSVP=25% Message-ID: <8608092.1211936255657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> If the prior arrangement cancels I will be attending. I'd like to know about the next one if possible (to start planning) and would like to know about any highlights. Luis F. From oly562 at charter.net Wed May 28 09:06:26 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:06:26 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <1211928232.14853.1255370797@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> <1211928232.14853.1255370797@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <483D8302.7020305@charter.net> Mplayer is the the defacto linux standard for media/video. At least that is what I have seen. Gnome/Kde desktops should have no problem there. Im sure there are windowmakers/managers that people love the most, but for most people, either new to nix or not concerned with bloat, Gnome/Kde and Mplayer should suffice. Besides, people who are more advanced will be able to figure it out ;) enjoy. john_re wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:04:55 -0700, "PR" said: > >> I have quite a few video client players to test on my linux lappy. i >> need a url, ip, port, so forth, authentication, keys? let me know. tanks, >> :) >> > > Great question. I'll send a post or two about doint the videocasting in > a few days hopefully. Partly that will be a request for suggestions > about what sw to use to send & rcv the videocast - so anything you know > or learn about good ways to do that will be of benefit to the group. > > Do you (or anyone reading this list) have any suggestions on that topic? > Video streaming? MPlayver vlc, mythtv ? > > I'm gonna invite a friend to this list shortly who will probably have > some good suggestions on this topic. > > >> john_re wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: >>> >>> >>>> send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. thanks! >>>> >>>> >>> will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oly562 at charter.net Wed May 28 11:37:22 2008 From: oly562 at charter.net (PR) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:37:22 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <483D8302.7020305@charter.net> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> <1211928232.14853.1255370797@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483D8302.7020305@charter.net> Message-ID: <483DA662.3070500@charter.net> Gxine is the other client that supports streaming media. Real Networks, or know as .rm files, are good but in the end someone needs to set up a streaming media server period and have good upload speeds, which also might mean not good quality image, decent but smaller since speed may be an issue. maybe 320x460 or something smaller to window. PR wrote: > Mplayer is the the defacto linux standard for media/video. At least > that is what I have seen. Gnome/Kde desktops should have no problem > there. Im sure there are windowmakers/managers that people love the > most, but for most people, either new to nix or not concerned with > bloat, Gnome/Kde and Mplayer should suffice. Besides, people who are > more advanced will be able to figure it out ;) enjoy. > > john_re wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:04:55 -0700, "PR" said: >> >>> I have quite a few video client players to test on my linux lappy. i >>> need a url, ip, port, so forth, authentication, keys? let me know. >>> tanks, >>> :) >>> >> >> Great question. I'll send a post or two about doint the videocasting in >> a few days hopefully. Partly that will be a request for suggestions >> about what sw to use to send & rcv the videocast - so anything you know >> or learn about good ways to do that will be of benefit to the group. >> >> Do you (or anyone reading this list) have any suggestions on that topic? >> Video streaming? MPlayver vlc, mythtv ? >> >> I'm gonna invite a friend to this list shortly who will probably have >> some good suggestions on this topic. >> >> >>> john_re wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: >>>> >>>>> send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. >>>>> thanks! >>>> will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. >>>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oly562.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 242 bytes Desc: not available URL: From john_re at fastmail.us Wed May 28 12:43:53 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:43:53 -0700 Subject: [buug] RSVP=25% In-Reply-To: <8608092.1211936255657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <8608092.1211936255657.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1212003833.14850.1255549205@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00), "Luis F. Gonzalez" said: > > If the prior arrangement cancels I will be attending. I'd like to know > about the next one if possible (to start planning) and would like to know > about any highlights. Hi - thanks for rsvping. And congratulations - you are the first person to use the "25%" probability. Thanks - it really helps for planning. I hope you can make this meeting. If you can't, keep watching this list. I plan to try to do this every month on the 1st Sat or Sun. That would make the next meetng July 5 or 6. If your plans clear up before the first meeting, & your probabilityh increases to 50% or higher, please email the list again with your new probability. It will help us keep up to date on the latest probabilities. Thanks. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be From john_re at fastmail.us Wed May 28 12:48:25 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:48:25 -0700 Subject: [buug] Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % In-Reply-To: <483D8302.7020305@charter.net> References: <1211515815.9307.1254673737@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4836E337.8070800@charter.net> <1211779483.15373.1255051745@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483C2317.8080709@charter.net> <1211928232.14853.1255370797@webmail.messagingengine.com> <483D8302.7020305@charter.net> Message-ID: <1212004105.15747.1255549335@webmail.messagingengine.com> On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:06:26 -0700, "PR" said: > Mplayer is the the defacto linux standard for media/video. At least that > is what I have seen. Gnome/Kde desktops should have no problem there. > Im sure there are windowmakers/managers that people love the most, but > for most people, either new to nix or not concerned with bloat, > Gnome/Kde and Mplayer should suffice. Besides, people who are more > advanced will be able to figure it out ;) enjoy. Thanks. - How about the tranxmitting end? I think I'd like to use a webcam for the transmission. What sw would be best to use? Also, I think we should get an IRC channel, so we also have that method to communicate in real time. Also, I think it would be good if you would email me directly (not necessary to send it to the list) a phone # I can call yo at as we try to get the vid xmission going - phone much faster throughput than irc for solving problems. Email me your #, if that;s ok. Thanks. > > john_re wrote: > > On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:04:55 -0700, "PR" said: > > > >> I have quite a few video client players to test on my linux lappy. i > >> need a url, ip, port, so forth, authentication, keys? let me know. tanks, > >> :) > >> > > > > Great question. I'll send a post or two about doint the videocasting in > > a few days hopefully. Partly that will be a request for suggestions > > about what sw to use to send & rcv the videocast - so anything you know > > or learn about good ways to do that will be of benefit to the group. > > > > Do you (or anyone reading this list) have any suggestions on that topic? > > Video streaming? MPlayver vlc, mythtv ? > > > > I'm gonna invite a friend to this list shortly who will probably have > > some good suggestions on this topic. > > > > > >> john_re wrote: > >> > >>> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:31:03 -0700, "PR" said: > >>> > >>> > >>>> send me the streaming link when up, id like to check things out. thanks! > >>>> > >>>> > >>> will do. Hope to have more info on that in about a week. > >>> -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From john_re at fastmail.us Fri May 30 02:12:57 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:12:57 -0700 Subject: [buug] ITP meeting place arrangements at UCB progress. Message-ID: <1212138777.1711.1255846239@webmail.messagingengine.com> I've spoken with a UCB CS professor who made some suggestions to me regarding how to go about arranging to get a place to hold the ITP at the UCB campus. Basically, he suggested I find a student group that would be willing to co-sponsor the event. If some such group did that, they would likely be fairly easily able to arrange a meeting place. Groups we discussed were the OCF, CSUA, CALLUG (rather inactive at the moment), HKN, IEEE. Are _you_ a UCB alum, faculty, staff, parent of student, California taxpayer? Do you have any contacts with the University or suggestions about arranging with UCB for a meeting place? [I'm a UCB alum.] Please reply to this message with any improving suggestions regarding getting a meeting place at UCB. - Thank you. Hopefully, today, Friday, I'll be on campus talking with those & other entities, trying to arrange a place. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own From john_re at fastmail.us Fri May 30 02:43:03 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:43:03 -0700 Subject: [buug] ITP update: other group invitations, speakers Message-ID: <1212140583.7021.1255850777@webmail.messagingengine.com> ===== PROGRESS: >From May 20, when I posted the first suggestion for the ITP & request for input, to today May 30, there has been much progress. 3.75 is the current probabilistic attendance at the first meeting, from just the BUUG list members. Also, PR has indicated he'd try to participate from Long Beach. Michael Paoli has told me he is interested in attending, pending other scheduling uncertainties. I suggested he RSVP % to the list. ===== OTHER GROUP INVITATIONS So, given all the progress, I am about to start publicizing this to other BSD/GNU/Linux/FOSS type groups. The first will be to Bay Area Debian (BAD), for which I am going to schedule a meeting for them coincident with the ITP. I'll post a copy of that email here shortly. ===== SPEAKERS: In addition to the speaker topics I suggested in my Berkeley Installfest, Talks, Potluck- 1) Structure http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003035.html "For the 1st meeting (tentatively June 7 Sat) some talk possibilities are: 1) Difference between Ubuntu8.4 & Debian 2) OLPC - Sugar OS project 3) Google Summer of Code - how you can help 4) PGP & personal keysigning 5) Mozilla 3 - the beta's features & how to help - the "show me the code" session? 6) Python08 conference highlights 7) LinuxPicnic (in SiValley) preparations/planning/how to help What other topics are hot now & would be good to have talks on? What would you like to hear a talk on? Would you like to _give_ a talk? What subject?" I've also found: Lindependence 2008 (Felton, CA, USA http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003041.html which sounds interesting & timely "Lindependence 2008 introduces GNU/Linux to the town of Felton, California -- about 6,000 people who live at the foot of the San Lorenzo Valley in Santa Cruz County, California. The plan behind Lindependence 2008 involves assisting those wishing to participate to go "proprietary free" for an entire week -- starting on Independence Day 2008 and running to July 11, 2008 -- using their choice of distro and FOSS programs." So, again I ask for your talk suggestions. What would like to hear a talk on? Please email the buug list with your suggestions. Shortly, I hope to make 3 posts, one each with more info about each of the 1) Installfest, 2) Talks, 3) Potluck. A short preview is that for the TALKS, THE WAY TALKS WILL WORK: BEFORE THE MEETING: ATTENDEES will message the list with talk subjects they'd like to hear. POTENTIAL SPEAKERS will message the list with talk subjects they are willing to give talks on. AT THE MEETING: There will be a timeslot sign up sheet, and anyone who can get one or more attendees to be an audience member for their talk can sign up for a time slot. At the time slot, attendees are free to attend the talks. Ie, it's very open & free form. Ultimately, I'd hope the ITP would have from 4-8 talks, of lengths from 15m to 1 hr. Please monitor the buug list for SPEAKERS/TALKS to monitor how progress is going. ===== What thoughts / progress_notes do you have? -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html From john_re at fastmail.us Fri May 30 03:06:06 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 03:06:06 -0700 Subject: [buug] Welcome to BUUG, Bay Area Debian (BAD) members Message-ID: <1212141966.11792.1255851497@webmail.messagingengine.com> Welcome to the BUUG list, Bay Area Debian (BAD) members. BUGGers: The following is the announcement I am about to send to the BAD list, creating a BAD meeting coincident with the ITP. http://bad.debian.net/ I post it here for ITP records completeness, & so anyone who has improving suggestions or comments can make them here. In this message to BAD, I invite them to subscribe to BUUG & post their RSVP % here (even though that is not required of BAD members for attending a BAD event), cause I think it helps everyone monitor ITP attendance progress. Please join with me in giving a friendly welcome to all new BAD members joining the BUUG list. Thank you. ========================================================================================= ANNOUNCEMENT- BAD MEETING Sat June 7 Berkeley, & call4 Speakers ===== WHAT In the spirit of the Shotgun rules, I'M VIOLATING RULE # 1 (oh, and some others too, probably), since there hasn't been an official shotgunned BAD meeting since last Dec, and calling a BAD meeting for Sat June 7, 12N-6PM. ===== WHERE WE WILL MEET in Berkeley, California, USA, Earth, Sol System, Milky Way, [Exact location ToBeDetermined, (in Berkeley, not the galaxy, etc.). I'm trying to arrange it on the UCBerkeley campus or nearby, I'll do a follow up post to this BAD list when location is finalized]. DIRECTIONS (Tentative): CAR: 80 Freeway to Berkeley, Uniersity Exit, up University to UCB. BART: Berkeley Downtown exit. BIKE: Bike to UCB. FLYING CAR: If you've got a flying car, & you can't figure out how to get to UCB, you have got big problems. ===== The BSD/GNULinux INSTALLFEST TALKS POTLUCK (ITP) This BAD meeting will be co-incident with the FIRST meeting of the BSD/GNULinux Installfest Talks Potluck event (ITP) that I am organizing. I've included the basic ITP description info below in this message, and here is a link: Berkeley Installfest, Talks, Potluck- 1) Structure http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003035.html Basically, the ITP will hopefully be a monthly recurring event, on the first Saturday of the month, about 6+ hours long, and will have 3 parallel events: 1) Installfest 2) Talks 3) Putluck I'm organizing the ITP through the buug.org mailing list. ===== PLEASE RSVP % The RSVP % is a probability of attendance RSVP. I strongly encourage you to JOIN THE BUUG.ORG MAILING LIST, http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug and then SEND AN RSVP % message TO THE BUUG LIST (ThankYou). Doing that will greatly help all ITP attendees get an idea how attendance for that event is progressing. It would be informative if you include in your RSVP% that you are coming for BAD, or because you heard about the ITP on BAD. Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003036.html 080607 RSVP=100% - That's all there is to doing the RSVP, folks. http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003041.html ============================= ===== CALL FOR SPEAKERS ===== For the Talks part of the ITP, (and the BAD meeting for that matter) I hereby make a call for speakers. I'm especially interested in having someone give a talk on HOW UBUNTU 08.04 DIFFERS FROM DEBIAN. This talk would be, at your choosing, anywhere from 15min to 1 hr. It could be a panel talk - & speakers could talk about what they know best. I'd especially like to hear what from Debian Ubuntu modifies. IIRC there was something about Python scripts, using python to controll something, etc. Also, if you would like to give a talk on anything else BSD/GNULinux FOSS, Debian or otherwise, please email us on the buug.org list with your suggestions. I/we are open to anything attendees at ITP might be interested in. THE WAY TALKS WILL WORK: BEFORE THE MEETING: ATTENDEES will message the list with talk subjects they'd like to hear. POTENTIAL SPEAKERS will message the list with talk subjects they are willing to give. AT THE MEETING: There will be a timeslot sign up sheet, and anyone who can get one or more attendees to be an audience member for their talk can sign up for a time slot. At the time slot, attendees are free to attend the talks. Ie, it's very open & free form. Ultimately, I'd hope the ITP would have from 4-8 talks, of lengths from 15m to 1 hr. Please monitor the buug list for SPEAKERS/TALKS to monitor how progress is going. ===== THANKS, & HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE That's the end of my BAD meeting call. Below is some reference material & links, so all the basic info is included in this one email message. Thanks. I hope to see you there. ===================================================================== ===== From: Berkeley Installfest, Talks, Potluck- 1) Structure http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003035.html The plan would be to hold a get together each month on the first Saturday (or maybe Sunday?), perhaps 12N-6PM. In Berkeley. It should be a fun & educational & productive & social event. It would have 3 parts that run in parallel time: 1) Installfest - new & experienced users welcome. 2) Talks (perhaps four to six talks of 15min to 1hr each about Distros, Kernel, Hardware, ApplicationSW, Programming, etc) 3) PotLuck - bring some food, maybe barbecue, talk about whatever. Maybe we could video stream the talks to other groups around the world who could hold similar events in their locality. For the 1st meeting (tentatively June 7 Sat) some talk possibilities are: 1) Difference between Ubuntu8.4 & Debian 2) OLPC - Sugar OS project 3) Google Summer of Code - how you can help 4) PGP & personal keysigning 5) Mozilla 3 - the beta's features & how to help - the "show me the code" session? 6) Python08 conference highlights 7) LinuxPicnic (in SiValley) preparations/planning/how to help =====From: Berk InstFest Talks Potluck- 2) Please RSVP % http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2008-May/003036.html If you think you at least _might_ come to the BITP, please reply to this message stating your best current estimate of the probability you'd attend on Saturday Jun 7, using probability of 25 50 75 or 100 %, & PUT your % # IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF THE MESSAGE. (Thankyou) (Equation between probability % and english language concepts: 25 = small possibility 50 = maybe 75 = more likely than not 100 = definitely ) This will help us as a guide to determining event planning. -- john_re at fastmail.us -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... From windsor.schmidt at gmail.com Fri May 30 20:42:36 2008 From: windsor.schmidt at gmail.com (Windsor Schmidt) Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:42:36 -0500 Subject: [buug] RSVP InstallFest: 100% all systems go In-Reply-To: <1211867525.23413.1255207449@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <483A6545.3080804@gmail.com> <1211867525.23413.1255207449@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <66e006d50805302042n220d1300h82ef2ae774e6a942@mail.gmail.com> I'm coming from (near) the intersection of Broadway and West MacArthur; the Northern end of the 'Broadway Auto Row'. If it seems reasonable, I'd be happy to roll in with anyone else who's planning on attending. If you want, feel free to put me in touch with your friend. My only caveat is that since it only takes me about 15 minutes to reach UCB, synchronizing the ride might be overkill. Having said that, I'm still interested. =) -Windsor On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:52 AM, john_re wrote: > On Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:45 -0700, "Windsor Schmidt" > said: >> Unless weather turns horrible (I cycle from Oakland), I'll show up to >> help out and meet some fellow unixers. > > I have a bike riding friend in Oakland who's come to a number of > GNU/Linux related events at UCB. What part of Oakland will you be > riding from? Perhaps you & he could organize the "Bike to Installfest" > contingent. > -- > > john_re at fastmail.us > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin > > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > From kwgoodman at gmail.com Sat May 31 17:42:34 2008 From: kwgoodman at gmail.com (Keith Goodman) Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 17:42:34 -0700 Subject: [buug] ANNOUNCEMENT- BAD MEETING Sat June 7 Berkeley, & call4 Speakers In-Reply-To: <1212142791.13918.1255854061@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1212142791.13918.1255854061@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:19 AM, john_re wrote: > > For the 1st meeting (tentatively June 7 Sat) some talk possibilities > are: > 1) Difference between Ubuntu8.4 & Debian > 2) OLPC - Sugar OS project > 3) Google Summer of Code - how you can help > 4) PGP & personal keysigning > 5) Mozilla 3 - the beta's features & how to help > - the "show me the code" session? > 6) Python08 conference highlights > 7) LinuxPicnic (in SiValley) preparations/planning/how to help I'd like to hear a talk on backup programs, especially duplicity. BTW, just curious, why refer to it as a PGP key instead of a GPG key? Are the formats the same?