From john_re at fastmail.us Fri Oct 3 10:12:39 2008 From: john_re at fastmail.us (john_re) Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:12:39 -0700 Subject: [buug] BerkeleyTIP Oct4 Sat. Unix FreeSW Meeting - Debian Akademy Videos IRC Message-ID: <1223053959.13794.1277388789@webmail.messagingengine.com> Good day Unix & FreeSW enthusiasts - :) Whole bunch of NEW EXCITING THINGS for YOU at the BerkeleyTIP GNU(LINUX), BSD & FreeSW meeting this SATURDAY OCTOBER 4 A) Join from HOME, B) Hot DEBIAN & KDE AKADEMY VIDEOS C) PROGRAMMING PARTY = Get VOIP between local meetings D) UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA FUTURE MEETINGS planning E) Welcome NEW INVITEES: GNU, DEBIAN, KDE projects You are INVITED to join with the friendly people at The GLOBAL, MONTHLY, SIMULTANEOUS, FREE SOFTWARE MEETING: BERKELEY-TIP All FreeSW & GNU(Linux) & BSD & Etc. TIP = Talks, Installfest, Potluck, ProgrammingParty http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIP ===== DATE: OCTOBER 4, SATURDAY ===== TIME: 10 AM - 6 PM PACIFIC Daylight Svgs. Time ===== LOCATION: 1) UC BERKELEY CAMPUS, (see specifics below) &/OR 2) ANYWHERE YOU WANT - Your home, your meeting, etc. ===== SCHEDULE: 10 AM - 6 PM PACIFIC Daylight Svgs. Time ===== 10 SETUP - LOCAL Meeting - Signs, Power, Wifi 11 SETUP - GLOBAL Communication - IRC, VOIP 12 PROG-PARTY - VOIP Dimdim Ekiga Asterisk - 1-N, N-N 100 VIDEO - DEBCONF - Intro to DEBCONF-08 130 VIDEO - DEBCONF - Debian - 15 years and counting 230 VIDEO - AKADEMY - The KDE e.V.: Foundation for the Community 3 DISCUSSION - USE KUBUNTU 8.10, OR SWITCH TO DEBIAN? 4 PROG-PARTY - VOIP Dimdim Ekiga Asterisk - 1-N, N-N PYTHON & SCI-PY - Discussion & Help get a video for November 5 UC Planning - Organize BerkTIP-G meetings at Univ of CA campuses 6 Done - closeup This is a new, combined, Local & Global announcement, for everyone within distance of actually attending the UC Berkeley physical meeting. Because I'm now opening this meeting up to anyone, anywhere (even participate from your home), this one announcement is for 1) anywhere participants (whom I call "Global", even if they are right here in the SFBA), & 2) the Berkeley physical location meeting. ===================================================================== ===== CONTENTS: ===== ===== 1) LOCAL HIGHLIGHTS ===== 2) NEW "LOCAL / REMOTE-GLOBAL" GENERALITIES ===== 3) LOCAL SPECIFICS ===== 4) GLOBAL & FULL DETAILS ===================================================================== ===== 1) LOCAL HIGHLIGHTS ===== LOCAL BERKELEY in person meeting at U. C. Berkeley ===== Come to the exciting UCB location meeting! (See location specifics below.) ===== NEW: UC STUDENTS - Ongoing starting this month, I'm announcing this meeting to student groups. Now that students are back in school, students interested in Free SW might come to this meeting. Here's a great chance for you to do all the regular meeting things, plus perhaps pass on important knowledge to students, or learn _from_ the students the latest things they are working on, & that interest them. ===== NEW: UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA FUTURE MEETINGS: Come plan & work toward the creation of monthly local meetings at ALL UC campuses. Hello Californians - The University of California is YOUR university. Created centuries ago by Californians to serve Californians, the University is a resource for us, and an educational service for students. Right now only Berkeley & Davis have Linux/FreeSW meetings in close conjunction with a UC campus. Wouldn't it be great if every month ALL the UC campuses had such a meeting? Even better if they were simultaneous with BerkeleyTIP-Global, & all Californians could get together in Virtual Space for one GREAT BIG MEETING. Come help plan & work to make this a reality. 5PM to 6 PM time slot at this meeting. ===================================================================== ===== 2) NEW "LOCAL / REMOTE-GLOBAL" GENERALITIES ===== GLOBAL: Other Bay Area physical meetings, or from home. Wouldn't it be great if everyone who wanted to attend a BerkeleyTIP meeting could? To bring that closer to reality, for people who can't affort the time or cost of traveling to Berkeley, I'm opening the meeting to everyone, everywhere. I invite people to join us from their home via IRC & VOIP, or set up their own local meeting. (See details below.) The more the merrier. This month we should have IRC set up within an hour of the start of the meeting. We'll also be working to get VOIP going. That will be even better at making it great for virtual attendees. No matter if it is cost savings, time savings, or you only want to be involved in some part(s) of the meeting. Maybe a college student doesn't have the resources to travel, even merely from San Francisco to Berkeley. NO PROBLEM! Join with us with IRC & VOIP. In the near future we'll make an effort to set up more local meetings - especially at UC campuses, & perhaps also at all college campuses in California, & everywhere. I think group meetings offer many benefits over merely joining online, but I believe in letting the individual make the choice. So: 1) Come to the U. C. Berkeley location meeting, or 2) Join with us from your home, or 3) Set up your own local meeting anywhere - A college campus would be great. It's your choice - have it your way! :) ===================================================================== ===== 3) LOCAL SPECIFICS ===== LOCAL UCB BerkeleyTIP MEETING DETAILS: ===== ===== LOCATION: Free Speech Cafe outside veranda, at Moffitt Library http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.872496,-122.261155&spn=0.000578,0.000633&t=h&z=20 Watch the BerkeleyTIP group page for last minute changes, such as if we need to move to another location. I'll post signs if we do move locations. ===== VIDEOS: I'll bring the videos on my laptop, so no need for you to bring them on yours. ===== HARDWARE: BE SELF SUFFICIENT - BRING ALL EQUIPMENT YOU NEED Do bring a laptop with microphone headset, wifi capable, ethernet cable & ethernet hub/swith if you have one, power cord & extension cord. ===== POTLUCK - Not for this meeting, Due to my main focus on the ProgrammingParty VOIP effort. ===== INSTALLFEST - IF YOU WANT HELP on any topic, please email the local BerkeleyTIP group mailing list with a "Installfest help wanted" message. Please state what you'd like help with, so we can tell you if we should be able to help you with that. ATTENDEES WHO CAN HELP on the installfest - Please respond to any "Installfest help wanted" messages posted to list indicating if you can help out with that. Thank you. ===== PROBABILISTIC RSVP: PLEASE make a probabilistic RSVP, if you think there is a >=75 % chance you'll attend, using the subject: "BerkeleyTIP RSVP % = ##" where ## = 75 or 99, choosing the closest # to the probability you think you'll attend. RSVP to my email address john_re at fastmail dot US, or join the group mailing list & RSVP there if you'd like to tell the group what you are interested in regarding the meeting. No RSVP is _necessary_, but it will help us to get an early warning if we might need to get a larger meeting location. -- Please come even if you aren't able to RSVP! I hope to see you there. :) ===== LOCAL WEATHER as of Friday says: Saturday Showers likely. Highs in the upper 50s to mid 60s. West winds 10 to 20 mph. http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=sfgate&query=berkeley%2C+ca So, we might be moving inside. Perhaps Soda, Cory, Evans, Dwinelle. The cafe veranda has a cover, so we'll be ok if it is only a tiny drizzle. Bring a jacket. Often such days warm up & get sunny in Berkeley. ===== CAR PARKING - Best to park below/downhill/west from campus for this meeting. There will be a football game at the stadium at the top of campus. Park below campus & it's a mere 7 minute walk to the meeting at the Free Speech Movement Cafe at Moffitt Undergrad Library. There is a UC parking garage at the foot of campus one block south of University Ave., at Addison & Oxford. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=37.871097,-122.266626&spn=0.002494,0.003085&z=18 There are also two aproximately 6 story parking garages in downtown Berkeley. Or, you might be able to find free street parking North or NorthWest of campus maybe between 2 & 10 blocks from campus. Be SURE to CHECK THE PARKING SIGNS ALONG THE SIDEWALK to ensure it is OK to park for more than 2 hours without a local parking permit car sticker. ===== BART - Berkeley Downtown stop. 7 minute walk to Free Speech Cafe at Moffitt Undergrad Library. ===================================================================== ===== 4) GLOBAL & FULL DETAILS ===== GLOBAL ANNOUNCEMENT ===== http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal Join the mailing list & say "Hi". IRC: BerkeleyTIPGlobal on freenode.net VOIP: Working on creating this capability this meeting NEW - You & Everyone are invited to 1) Join from HOME, OR 2) Set up a LOCAL MEETING in your community- A GREAT place is at a local COLLEGE or UNIVERSITY. EASY TO DO - Merely meet at a WiFi cafe. - Announce on your local email list This is a FREE, NO $ COST, global event. ===== HIGHLIGHTS: ===== 1) VIDEOS/TALKS: Debconf, KDE Akademy Meet the community - introductions to people 2) _NEW:_ JOIN IN FROM ANYWHERE - EVEN FROM HOME, or FROM a COLLEGE or UNIVERSITY WITH IRC, and working toward VOIP CONFERENCING CALL 3) Welcome NEW INVITEES GNU, DEBIAN, KDE, UC Berkeley students, LUGOD & UC Davis Students ===================================================================== ===== VIDEOS - TALKS HOT NEW VIDEOS FROM DEBIAN DEBCONF & KDE AKADEMY Download the files to your laptop before the meeting. Play the videos at the relevant times. Get on IRC or VOIP to discuss them with the other viewers around the globe. 100P VIDEO - Debconf - Introduction to Debconf 2008 - Debian - 15 years and counting 230P VIDEO - Akademy - The KDE e.V.: Foundation for the Community Video Download information here: http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal/web/videos-2008-10 ===== GLOBAL COMMUNICATIONS - IRC, VOIP - 11 AM IRC Start time == !! 11AM !! SETUP TIME - should be online starting this hour NOTE: ONLINE MEETINGS STARTS AT 11 AM, NOT 10 AM This gives the local group 1 hour to do local setup. IRC CHANNEL - BerkeleyTIPGlobal on Freenode.net == VOIP - 1) Dimdim.com ? - VOIP conference in Firefox + Adobe Flash 2) or try Ekiga? or Asterisk? This meeting will be our first attempt to get VOIP going. VOIP capability is the group Programming/Development/Progress Project for this meeting. We will be working together to get this capability working for the global meeting. ===== PROGRAMMING PARTY Work on getting VOIP working between meeting locations, including individual participants from home. We'll be trying & testing: 1) Dimdim.com - One to Many (1-N) net meeting service using Firefox & Adobe Flash 2) Asterisk - Red Hat Infrastructure team has new VOIP capability, I think using Asterisk & donated hosting from Digium??? We'll investigate this technology. 3) Ekiga - Can this be used for 1-N? N-N? How? Server needed? What SW? ===== JOIN FROM HOME - NEW ; OR, SETUP A LOCAL MEETING NEW this meeting, we INVITE everyone to JOIN FROM HOME if you wish. This is an easy way to get started with the meeting. Or, you can organize a LOCAL MEETING & get together with your friends. Having a meeting with friends can generate much more learning, progress, community & fun. You could have a local potluck meal, too. A GREAT PLACE to have a local meeting is at a COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY. It can be at a WiFi cafe. It's great to INVITE the STUDENTS there to attend - it HELPS them LEARN about Linux & Free Software, and - it keeps the community UP TO DATE on the NEW THINGS STUDENTS are DOING. ===== NEW INVITEES - Welcome the new invitees this month: 1) GNU PROJECT 2) DEBIAN DISTRO 3) KDE GUI PROJECT 4) University of California Berkeley CS & EE & Engineering students 5) LUGOD, including U. C. Davis students ===================================================================== JOIN the MAILING LIST for the BerkeleyTIP-Global meeting & say "Hi". Tell us if you'll attend the meeting from home, or if you'll set up a local meeting. Or, ask any questions. I hope to hear from you on the mailing list, & at the meeting on IRC & VOIP. :) From jim at well.com Tue Oct 7 14:38:33 2008 From: jim at well.com (jim) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:38:33 -0700 Subject: [buug] BayPIGgies meeting Thursday October 09, 2008: Pygame multimedia hacking Message-ID: <1223415513.8354.165.camel@ubuntu> BayPIGgies meeting Thursday October 09, 2008: PyGameSF: A story of multimedia hacking fun with Python By Harry Tormey and Andrew Turley. This talk will give an overview of the technologies available for creating multimedia projects with Python, how the PyGameSF meet up got started, what it's all about, and an overview of the wide variety of projects presented at our meetups. Tonight's Newbie Nugget is... Unittesting with Mock, presented by Daryl Spitzer I'll present examples using Michael Foord's Mock library to create unit tests with mocks or stubs taking the place of module and built-in functions. As Mr. Foord writes in http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/mock.html#introduction "Most mocking libraries follow the 'record -> replay' pattern of mocking. I prefer the 'action -> assertion' pattern, which is more readable and intuitive particularly when working with the Python unittest module." Location: Google Campus Building 40, the Seville room (check in at the lobby in bldg 43) bayPIGgies meeting information: http://baypiggies.net/new/plone * Please sign up in advance to have your google access badge ready: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BayPiggiesGoogleMeetings (no later than close of business on Wednesday.) Agenda ..... 7:30 PM ........................... General hubbub, inventory end-of-meeting announcements, any first-minute announcements. ..... 7:35 PM to 7:45 PM ................ Newbie Nugget: Unit testing with Mock by Daryl Spitzer ..... 7:45 PM to 8:45 PM ................ Pygame, multimedia hacking fun with Python by Harry ..... 8:45 PM to 9:00 PM -- After The Talk ................ Mapping and Random Access Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics the announcers are interested in. Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up individually on the announcements and other topics of interest. 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InformIT, 800 East 96th Street, Indianapolis, Indiana 46240 ? 2008 Pearson Education. All rights reserved. unsubscribe [ http://informit.list-manage.com/unsubscribe? ] ----- End forwarded message ----- From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Mon Oct 20 16:57:40 2008 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:57:40 -0700 Subject: [buug] BALUG Tomorrow! Dirk Morris, Untangle CTO 2008-10-21 Message-ID: <20081020165740.20168twcxmabej2s@webmail.rawbw.com> BALUG Tomorrow! Dirk Morris, Untangle CTO 2008-10-21 Please rsvp if you're planning to come (see below). Dirk Morris will be speaking at BALUG Tuesday 2008-10-21 (tomorrow!). Dirk Morris is the co-founder and Chief Technology Officer of Untangle[1] and visionary behind the Untangle Gateway Platform. Prior to Untangle, Dirk was Chief Architect at Akheron Technologies, where he invented the patent-pending High Bandwidth Transparent Vectoring used in the company's proxy firewall engine. He has also held positions as lead engineer at VerticalNet and H.L.L.C. Consulting, developing Java-based distributed monitor and intrusion detection systems. Prior to that, Dirk worked on survivability simulations at CERT/CC (Computer Emergency Response Team), the renowned, federally-funded Center for Internet security operated by Carnegie Mellon University. Dirk holds a Bachelor's degree in Computer Science with a minor in Mathematics from Carnegie Mellon University. So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP: rsvp at balug.org **Why RSVP??** Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they ensure that we're able to eat upstairs in the private banquet room. Meeting Details... 6:30pm October 21st, 2008 (Tomorrow!) Four Seas Restaurant 731 Grant Ave. San Francisco, CA 94108 Easy $5 PARKING: Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13 1. http://www.untangle.com/ http://www.balug.org/ From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 00:04:00 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:04:00 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook Message-ID: Hi BUUGs and BUUGettes! New to this list, you may call me pewterbot9 (a Futurama fan pun). I've been a Linux advocate for many years, though not a programmer...or as I like to say: "I couldn't hack my way out of a virtual paper bag." I plan to attend your next meeting at Au Coquelet (Nov. 6). Being on a low income for so long, I've had to forego the pleasure of high-speed access until now. I have ordered a netbook w/wifi, and eagerly await FedEx delivery. Got it on eBay for only $315 (thanks to $105 cashback on original price of $420). To view the specs (and a review): http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4646 Though installed w/WinXP, I will bootup via an Ubuntu 8.04 flash drive. Some of my netbook plans: Hook it up at home to a larger screen, to view downloaded videos. Use an external DVD and HD drive for their usual, obvious purposes. Videoblog via webcam. So I'll need a decent video editor, nothing too fancy...I'm experienced in this w/Windows98 programs. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised to discover Ubuntu comes preinstalled w/a video application or two. I'll check out Ubuntu's features over the next few days. Also: video chatting a la Skype...that is, the Linux version. And of course, all the usual Internet 1 stuff: Usenet, e-mail, personal web site, yadda yadda yadda. I'm sure you BUUG folks have already gone wild over the netbook craze, and know all about this Asus model I bought...prolly tore it apart and put it back together again a zillion times by now. So I look forward to sharing tips, stories, and adventures with other *nix advocates and netbook afficionados. I also write tales, some of 'em computer-sci-fi-ish, such as: The Parable of the Laptop Billionaire http://ezekielk.tblog.com/post/412459 Stay well, as we approach Samhain and the glorious Winter Solstice, as Linux ascends to finally eclipse the great behemoth M$ whose name shall not be mentioned. :b -- "A government is only as good as its operating system." From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 14:41:58 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:41:58 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <766203.51574.qm@web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <766203.51574.qm@web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Joel Davis wrote: > I've got one of these, too (the earlier 701 model). I'm pretty happy with it. I'm running the linux it came with, but Im thinking about upgrading to the eeeUbuntu. Sounds like a good move. I was impressed by the Xandros interface that comes loaded w/some Eee models. But I understand the eeeUbuntu is really the best. Check this out: Linux Journal Reviews the Asus Eee PC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmZZibb33E From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 14:52:03 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:52:03 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <766203.51574.qm@web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <766203.51574.qm@web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh, lotsa freakin' videos for the Asus Eee PC, just load youtube.com and search for: linux asus eee -- A government is only as good as its operating system. From cheselka at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 16:23:57 2008 From: cheselka at gmail.com (Michael Cheselka) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:23:57 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c6fb8810810241623h1f461680n1ef31098b8e12422@mail.gmail.com> Hello Peter, Is this a 1000H or 1000HA? The HA model is not really as good as the recent models and is more of a 900 series. Some unscrupulous sellers list 1000HA machines like this "1000H A". Regards, Mike On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 00:04, Pewter Bot wrote: > Hi BUUGs and BUUGettes! New to this list, you may call me pewterbot9 > (a Futurama fan pun). I've been a Linux advocate for many years, > though not a programmer...or as I like to say: "I couldn't hack my way > out of a virtual paper bag." I plan to attend your next meeting at Au > Coquelet (Nov. 6). > > Being on a low income for so long, I've had to forego the pleasure of > high-speed access until now. I have ordered a netbook w/wifi, and > eagerly await FedEx delivery. Got it on eBay for only $315 (thanks to > $105 cashback on original price of $420). To view the specs (and a > review): > > http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4646 > > Though installed w/WinXP, I will bootup via an Ubuntu 8.04 flash > drive. Some of my netbook plans: > > Hook it up at home to a larger screen, to view downloaded videos. Use > an external DVD and HD drive for their usual, obvious purposes. > Videoblog via webcam. So I'll need a decent video editor, nothing too > fancy...I'm experienced in this w/Windows98 programs. Maybe I'll be > pleasantly surprised to discover Ubuntu comes preinstalled w/a video > application or two. I'll check out Ubuntu's features over the next few > days. > > Also: video chatting a la Skype...that is, the Linux version. And of > course, all the usual Internet 1 stuff: Usenet, e-mail, personal web > site, yadda yadda yadda. > > I'm sure you BUUG folks have already gone wild over the netbook craze, > and know all about this Asus model I bought...prolly tore it apart and > put it back together again a zillion times by now. So I look forward > to sharing tips, stories, and adventures with other *nix advocates and > netbook afficionados. I also write tales, some of 'em > computer-sci-fi-ish, such as: > > The Parable of the Laptop Billionaire > http://ezekielk.tblog.com/post/412459 > > Stay well, as we approach Samhain and the glorious Winter Solstice, as > Linux ascends to finally eclipse the great behemoth M$ whose name > shall not be mentioned. :b > > -- > "A government is only as good as its operating system." > _______________________________________________ > Buug mailing list > Buug at weak.org > http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug > -- When in the Potemkin Wired be a Potemkin Lain. From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 23:58:11 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:58:11 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <3c6fb8810810241623h1f461680n1ef31098b8e12422@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c6fb8810810241623h1f461680n1ef31098b8e12422@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 10/24/08, Michael Cheselka wrote: > Hello Peter, Hey there Michael! > Is this a 1000H or 1000HA? The HA model is not really as good as the > recent models and is more of a 900 series. > Some unscrupulous sellers list 1000HA machines like this "1000H A". It IS advertised as that: "1000H A", but the seller has an excellent rating: 100% Positive since Mar-06-99. So it's silly for him to feel he needs to trick customers, if that is indeed his intent, considering that the "HA" is nonetheless an excellent netbook. --http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee: The 1000HA released in October of 2008 also costs less then the 1000H but has the same Intel Atom 1.6Ghz CPU, 160GB HDD, and 1GB of RAM. It does not however have Bluetooth or wireless N. --end quote I can live w/o those two features, easily. What really matters to me is that I get the Atom CPU, and it's 1Ghz or higher (NO Celeron for me), 1GB RAM, wireless, very compact and light, 10" screen, decent keyboard, generous HD (for me just 40GB would do it), lots of ports including VGA and card slots, low energy use, long battery life, and durable. It DOES have wireless G. AND the integrated webcam, but I really don't need that, either...since my plan is for a USB connected mini-cam, that I can pin to my coat, with the netbook concealed. I want to surreptitiously video-record certain political events, and the street scene here in SF and Berkeley. > Regards, > Mike Thanks for the heads-up MIke. I'm sure I'll have my netbook by the time of BUUG's next meeting. I'll bring it! -- A government is only as good as its operating system. From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Sat Oct 25 00:07:37 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:07:37 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <83005.11932.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <83005.11932.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 10/24/08, Joel Davis wrote: > Yeah, there's lots of stuff out there for eeePCs. I do a lot of > screenwriting and I use Celtx, the eeePC build is here: > http://forums.celtx.com/viewtopic.php?p=47753 Nice! I'm glad I'm not too late to catch the eeePC wave! I think the netbook is phenomenal, a remarkable breakthrough. Then again, that's what I thought about the Tandy 2000. :b -- A government is only as good as its operating system. From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Sat Oct 25 00:24:01 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:24:01 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <18dd01c93670$f5e2ad0f$d70a0a0a@mindsource.com> References: <18dd01c93670$f5e2ad0f$d70a0a0a@mindsource.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Gian Carlo Leyva wrote: > Can you do this at a different time? > Phone keeps beeping. I don't think posters should have to worry about whether or not a member's cell phone beeps because a msg. is sent. Actually, I find your request rather odd...never heard of such a complaint before! That is, if I interpreted your statement correctly. It's not like someone keeps voice calling you when you are preoccupied. I think all members should feel free to post to a mailing list any time of the day or night. That is the way it's always been, and I see no need to change that. Imagine OTHER members making the same request at other times? How would one know when it's okay to post at all? Suggestion: turn off your cell phone. We rule technology, not the other way around. -- A government is only as good as its operating system. From pewterbot9 at gmail.com Sat Oct 25 02:55:57 2008 From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:55:57 -0700 Subject: [buug] ASUS Eee PC 1000H netbook In-Reply-To: <83005.11932.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <83005.11932.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just discovered this: http://www.eeeuser.com/ A rrrrreeeaaaally nice site for Asus Eee worshippers. -- A government is only as good as its operating system. From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Sat Oct 25 22:56:41 2008 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:56:41 -0700 Subject: [buug] additional hard links on directories Message-ID: <20081025225641.134276w02m7kkr8c@webmail.rawbw.com> Unix(/Linux/...) - additional hard links on directories ... came up in discussion at BUUG some meetings back, ... been meaning to post this, ... anyway ... Additional hard links on directories are generally a bad idea (they tend to be rather to quite problematic). Nevertheless, generally speaking, Unix permits such - but restricts their use (creation) to that of superuser - probably owing to the hazards and chaos they can cause. Linux seems to be even more restrictive in this regard (probably by design). Anyway, keeping the preceeding hazards/caveats/warnings in mind ... For an example on Solaris (and a bit more discussion), see: news:d85eb83f.0407172105.112f6714 at posting.google.com (which one can also view via: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.unix.solaris/msg/f49910ca0cafe77f?dmode=source ) And, for an example in Unix 7th Edition (under emulator): $ unix-v7 PDP-11 simulator V3.3-2 Disabling XQ @boot New Boot, known devices are hp ht rk rl rp tm vt : rl(0,0)rl2unix mem = 177856 # mkdir /tmp # cd /tmp # mkdir dir # cd dir # ls -lid . /tmp/dir 1951 drwxrwxrwx 2 root 32 Sep 22 05:47 . 1951 drwxrwxrwx 2 root 32 Sep 22 05:47 /tmp/dir # ln . dir ln: . is a directory # ln -f . dir # ls -lid /tmp/dir . dir 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 48 Sep 22 05:48 . 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 48 Sep 22 05:48 /tmp/dir 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 48 Sep 22 05:48 dir # pwd /tmp/dir # rm -rf dir rm: dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir: cannot read # ls dir # cd dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir # cd dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir # cd dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir # cd dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir # pwd /tmp/dir # ls -lid /tmp dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/.. 1952 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 48 Sep 22 05:47 /tmp 1952 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 48 Sep 22 05:47 dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/dir/.. # unlink dir unlink: not found # /etc/unlink dir /etc/unlink: not found # ls -ld /sbin /usr/sbin /sbin not found /usr/sbin not found # ls -ld /bin /usr/bin /usr/bin not found drwxrwxr-x 2 bin 2512 Sep 22 05:32 /bin # /bin/unlink dir /bin/unlink: not found # echo $PATH # ed unlink.c ?unlink.c 0a main(){ unlink("dir"); } . w 25 q # cc unlink.c # ls -lid /tmp/dir . dir 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 112 Sep 22 05:51 . 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 112 Sep 22 05:51 /tmp/dir 1951 drwxrwxrwx 3 root 112 Sep 22 05:51 dir # ls a.out dir unlink.c # ./a.out # ls a.out unlink.c # ls -lid /tmp/dir . 1951 drwxrwxrwx 2 root 112 Sep 22 05:51 . 1951 drwxrwxrwx 2 root 112 Sep 22 05:51 /tmp/dir #