From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Fri Jul  3 07:59:35 2009
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:59:35 -0700
Subject: [buug] [OT?] Software Engineering, Microsoft, funny(?)
Message-ID: <20090703075935.30972hlc3o5kjim8@webmail.rawbw.com>

Perhaps/likely mostly semi-/rather/highly? off-topic, but in any case
...

If you were at the BUUG meeting yesterday evening, you may have gotten
to hear a dramatic reading of ... :-) (unfortunately I don't think quite
everyone was there at the same time, due to some variability in folks
arrival/departure schedules ... perhaps also due to holiday weekend and
such).

Anyway, ... some wee bits of software engineering points of (rather
broad and general) note, but, mostly a (somewhat/rather) tongue-in-cheek
(and hopefully enough trace of humor to help ease the pain a bit)
commentary upon a too typical example one of many reasons I tend to
quite dislike Microsoft.

I'd sent this email to a fair chunk of my coworkers (to a technical
list/alias, and CCed to a broader, but lower priority semi-random stuff
type list/alias also).

So, without (much) further ado (very slightly redacted, and I dropped
out the not-so-interesting reference at the end to a fair bit of an
earlier email I'd sent) ...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Paoli
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:52 PM
To: <redacted>
Cc: <redacted>
Subject: Gotta love Microsoft! <cough, cough>
Importance: Low

Well, it would seem most probable that this Blue Screen Of Death (BSOD)
seen repeatedly upon redocking:
"


*** Hardware Malfunction

Call your hardware vendor for support

NMI: Parity Check / Memory Parity Error

*** The system has halted ***


"

is the charming manner in which Microsoft uses XP to so graciously, and
with Microsoft's such uncanny accuracy, inform the user that the VGA
type video cable attached to the docking station isn't fully and
properly seated/attached at the monitor end of that cable.

After struggling repeatedly over two days with severe Wi-Fi
non-operability issues, issues upon [un]docking (including multiple of
those subtle charming indicators of issue noted above), and towards the
tail end of that string of inconveniences, problems getting external
video to work at all - it was discovered that said video cable
connection had managed to become loose and the cable was no longer
properly seated upon the connector.  Upon properly reseating and
securely attaching the video cable to the monitor, everything started
working properly again, and has continued to do so thus far quite
reliably - including running through numerous dock/undock transitions
and many transitions from wired Ethernet LAN to Wi-Fi and back - many
repeated cycles now, with no signs of the earlier problems recurring
(which had been quite frequent/persistent, and repeated).  I think this
likely also has something to do with Microsoft's marvelous
Plug-aNd-Play (PNP) technology - how it so nicely automatically detects
and deals with attaching/removing hardware, and helps gently alert
users to the fact that something may not be 100% correct with hardware.
Thank you Microsoft, for continuing to deliver that utmost of
reliability, robustness, fault tolerance, and highly helpful error
messages and diagnostics we've all come to love and expect from you.

footnotes/references/excerpts:
1. Paraphrasing myself - as I've repeatedly said for a very long time
    now:  Error diagnostics are often the least exercised software code
    - so take what they say with a grain of salt.  E.g. they'll often be
    somewhat close or related to the issue, but often not precisely spot
    on.
2. In the case of Microsoft, that "grain" of salt should be appropriate
    sized block, e.g. 50 lb. cattle sized salt lick block or larger,
    e.g.:
    http://tinyurl.com/lc9vw5
    http://tinyurl.com/n84kcb
    http://tinyurl.com/nx9lqv
    http://tinyurl.com/n8fo35
    http://tinyurl.com/nvjxar
3. Never underestimate the extremes to which Microsoft will go to
    enhance and create highly memorable user experiences, create software
    of such remarkable quality, and produce standards of such levels of
    reliability.
4. 3rd party software (e.g. video drivers) may also share in the
    credit/blame - in such cases Microsoft often likes to play the blame
    game (and likewise for the 3rd party).  I like how Microsoft
    operating systems are able to run so well and independently of any
    such 3rd party software <cough, cough> ... well, ... if you don't
    need any video output anyway ... or likely also any keyboard or
    pointing device input, etc., ... or audio or network output or input.




From pewterbot9 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  3 18:32:16 2009
From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:32:16 -0700
Subject: [buug] [OT?] Software Engineering, Microsoft, funny(?)
Message-ID: <a86954420907031832p5799006eh9f7644e28e8bfb2a@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:00 PM, "Michael Paoli"
<Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> so lucidly wrote:

[about a bunch-a-stuff to do w/Micro$oft's poor error handling]

Michael, the images you referenced via tinyURL sure brought the point
home!  I suppose I should take it all with a grain of salt.  :P


-- 
Zeke Krahlin


From lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com  Fri Jul  3 21:36:23 2009
From: lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com (Chris Miller)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:36:23 -0700
Subject: [buug] [OT?] Software Engineering, Microsoft, funny(?)
In-Reply-To: <20090703075935.30972hlc3o5kjim8@webmail.rawbw.com>
References: <20090703075935.30972hlc3o5kjim8@webmail.rawbw.com>
Message-ID: <62F327AE-B618-4123-86D5-654E0346C363@gmail.com>

On Jul 3, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Michael Paoli wrote:

> Perhaps/likely mostly semi-/rather/highly? off-topic, but in any case
> ...
>
> If you were at the BUUG meeting yesterday evening, you may have gotten
> to hear a dramatic reading of ... :-) (unfortunately I don't think  
> quite
> everyone was there at the same time, due to some variability in folks
> arrival/departure schedules ... perhaps also due to holiday weekend  
> and
> such).
>
> Anyway, ... some wee bits of software engineering points of (rather
> broad and general) note, but, mostly a (somewhat/rather) tongue-in- 
> cheek
> (and hopefully enough trace of humor to help ease the pain a bit)
> commentary upon a too typical example one of many reasons I tend to
> quite dislike Microsoft.
>
> I'd sent this email to a fair chunk of my coworkers (to a technical
> list/alias, and CCed to a broader, but lower priority semi-random  
> stuff
> type list/alias also).
>
> So, without (much) further ado (very slightly redacted, and I dropped
> out the not-so-interesting reference at the end to a fair bit of an
> earlier email I'd sent) ...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Paoli
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: <redacted>
> Cc: <redacted>
> Subject: Gotta love Microsoft! <cough, cough>
> Importance: Low
>
> Well, it would seem most probable that this Blue Screen Of Death  
> (BSOD)
> seen repeatedly upon redocking:
> "
>
>
> *** Hardware Malfunction
>
> Call your hardware vendor for support
>
> NMI: Parity Check / Memory Parity Error
>
> *** The system has halted ***
>
>
> "
>
> is the charming manner in which Microsoft uses XP to so graciously,  
> and
> with Microsoft's such uncanny accuracy, inform the user that the VGA
> type video cable attached to the docking station isn't fully and
> properly seated/attached at the monitor end of that cable.

In Microsoft's defense that's probably a video driver issue, or at  
least a problem with how the video card is handling errors internally  
in firmware.

> After struggling repeatedly over two days with severe Wi-Fi
> non-operability issues, issues upon [un]docking (including multiple of
> those subtle charming indicators of issue noted above), and towards  
> the
> tail end of that string of inconveniences, problems getting external
> video to work at all - it was discovered that said video cable
> connection had managed to become loose and the cable was no longer
> properly seated upon the connector.  Upon properly reseating and
> securely attaching the video cable to the monitor, everything started
> working properly again, and has continued to do so thus far quite
> reliably - including running through numerous dock/undock transitions
> and many transitions from wired Ethernet LAN to Wi-Fi and back - many
> repeated cycles now, with no signs of the earlier problems recurring
> (which had been quite frequent/persistent, and repeated).  I think  
> this
> likely also has something to do with Microsoft's marvelous
> Plug-aNd-Play (PNP) technology - how it so nicely automatically  
> detects
> and deals with attaching/removing hardware, and helps gently alert
> users to the fact that something may not be 100% correct with  
> hardware.
> Thank you Microsoft, for continuing to deliver that utmost of
> reliability, robustness, fault tolerance, and highly helpful error
> messages and diagnostics we've all come to love and expect from you.
>
> footnotes/references/excerpts:
> 1. Paraphrasing myself - as I've repeatedly said for a very long time
>    now:  Error diagnostics are often the least exercised software code
>    - so take what they say with a grain of salt.  E.g. they'll often  
> be
>    somewhat close or related to the issue, but often not precisely  
> spot
>    on.

I find that the system administration logs are thousands of times more  
useful.

Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer

> 2. In the case of Microsoft, that "grain" of salt should be  
> appropriate
>    sized block, e.g. 50 lb. cattle sized salt lick block or larger,
>    e.g.:
>    http://tinyurl.com/lc9vw5
>    http://tinyurl.com/n84kcb
>    http://tinyurl.com/nx9lqv
>    http://tinyurl.com/n8fo35
>    http://tinyurl.com/nvjxar

Holy crap, those of us here in Mac land just got totally dehydrated  
looking at that.

> 3. Never underestimate the extremes to which Microsoft will go to
>    enhance and create highly memorable user experiences, create  
> software
>    of such remarkable quality, and produce standards of such levels of
>    reliability.

You think that's bad, you should have tried Windows 98.  If you have,  
then the phrase "VXD error" should put you into a state of absolute  
terror.

> 4. 3rd party software (e.g. video drivers) may also share in the
>    credit/blame - in such cases Microsoft often likes to play the  
> blame
>    game (and likewise for the 3rd party).  I like how Microsoft
>    operating systems are able to run so well and independently of any
>    such 3rd party software <cough, cough> ... well, ... if you don't
>    need any video output anyway ... or likely also any keyboard or
>    pointing device input, etc., ... or audio or network output or  
> input.

Yes, I love how my $250 NVIDIA graphics card is all but worthless  
because of the drivers.  It freaks out and completely freezes the  
machine from time to time - no matter what OS I'm on (I've tried it  
with Vista, Gentoo, Open SuSE, and Ubuntu).

Then whenever I remove my USB wifi dongle in Vista it creates a new  
wifi device when I re-insert it.  Why I have four wifi adapters and  
only one functional I'll never know!

Registered Linux Addict #431495
For Faith and Family! | John 3:16!
http://www.fsdev.net/



From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Fri Jul 10 22:55:48 2009
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:55:48 -0700
Subject: [buug] "Bay Area LUGs" flyer created for OSCON, etc.
In-Reply-To: <200907092042.n69KgoUa031309@bolt.sonic.net>
References: <200907092042.n69KgoUa031309@bolt.sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20090710225548.172915vho4yb9c9w@webmail.rawbw.com>

[preface note:
DO NOT send/reply to
buug at weak.org and/or balug-talk at lists.balug.org
unless you're subscribed to the respective list(s) - lest you
annoy the list admins and suffer their rath and ridicule]

I'd suggest:

Include:
Berkeley Unix User Group (BUUG)
http://www.buug.org/
(has much more regular and generally larger attendance than
Berkeley-TIP/BerkTIP, and has been around for many more years;
BUUG also isn't just UNIX(R), but is more generally "Unix" in
a POSIX/SUS and quite compatible way (e.g. it's presently majority
Linux folks/interests, but doesn't exclude UNIX(R), BSD, OS X, etc.))

Mention of and link to BALE (e.g.:
"
And lots more:
The BALE -- Bay Area Linux Events http://linuxmafia.com/bale/
"
)

To the above, might also want to add links to other relevant pages of
lists with links, etc. covering other Bay Area Linux User Groups (e.g.
I think SVLUG has such a relatively comprehensive list:
Other (Linux, Unix, Software, etc.) Local Groups  
http://www.svlug.org/farm.php#other-local
).

For photo, may want to include a photo of a much more impressive
attendance.  Perhaps a recent SVLUG photo may do (probably largest
average attendance for relatively current meetings of a LUG (or similar UG)
in the Bay ARea) ... or ... not as current, but BALUG's had some big
meetings (we had about 110 when Mark Shuttleworth was there ... not sure we
have photos available on that though, ... though some folks definitely
took photos) ... there are also some older BALUG photos from when
Linus Torvalds was at BALUG - our record attendance (I forget the
count, but there are some photos about, e.g.:
http://marc.merlins.org/linux/balug9906/
)

references/excerpts (et. seq.):
http://lists.balug.org/pipermail/balug-talk-balug.org/2009-July/004442.html

Quoting nbs <nbs at sonic.net>:

> Hello, this is Bill Kendrick, president and one of the co-founders of LUGOD,
> the Linux Users' Group of Davis. [1]
>
> Recently, I was seeing if it was possible to get a booth at O'Reilly's
> Open Source Convention (OSCON) [2], which will be in the bay area this year.
> (It had previously been in Portland, in recent years.)
>
> Unfortunately, there's no more room in the .ORG Pavillion.  We spoke with
> the California "Ubuntu Local Community (LoCo) Team" about sharing space, but
> it was decided that it was not feasible.
>
> However, Ubuntu Calif. Loco (and possibly other groups [3]) has offered to
> place a flyer out on our behalf.  So, based on my knowledge as LUGOD
> public relations guy, and a quick browse at Rick Moen's "BALE"
> (Bay Area Linux Events) site [4], I've whipped together a brief list of
> greater Bay Area LUGs, together with a little map. [5]
>
>   http://lugod.org/projects/oscon/bay_area_lugs/
>
> Please let me know if you see any omissions or anything needing corrections.
> I created the document in Scribus (using OpenStreetMap.org and The GIMP to
> create the map), but I am not a graphic designer, so it lacks "pizzazz".
> Feel free to take what I've done and create something flashier.
>
> At this point, I need to determine (1) where, when and how to print off
> a run of flyers (and how many!) and (2) how to get them to the group(s)
> that are going to place them out at OSCON.
>
> I'd also love if we could get these out at OSWorld (previously  
> LinuxWorld). [6]
> And, of course, feel free to print them out and place them out at LUG
> and other UG meetings, to help spread the word about the other LUGs.
> (Sometimes people don't think to search the web for "linux user  
> group {city}")
>
> [1] LUGOD is a 10 year old LUG that meets in Davis, near Sacramento:
>     http://www.lugod.org/
>
> [2] OSCON takes place July 20-24th.  The expo is the 22nd & 23rd.
>     http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009
>
> [3] If you know of other groups who would be willing to put out a
>     "multi-LUG" flyer, please let me knwo!
>
> [4] Bay Area Linux Events (BALE): http://linuxmafia.com/bale/
>
> [5] The .pdf is the printable document, generated from the source
>     document, which is a Scribus .sla.
>     The .png and .jpg are depended-upon by the .sla.
>     The .xcf.gz is the Gimp source to the .png map.)
>
> [6] OpenSource World (previously LinuxWorld Conf & Expo) takes place
>     August 12-13th in San Francisco.
>     http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/
>
>
> PS - I'm sending this to either the discussion mailing list, or whatever
>      contact email address I could find via your LUG's website.
>      Feel free to pass this along as you see fit!




From pewterbot9 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 11 15:56:18 2009
From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:56:18 -0700
Subject: [buug] Programmers Guild
Message-ID: <a86954420907111556y949e408pd425b5c2391c50ac@mail.gmail.com>

May be a most helpful resource to some on this list:

http://www.programmersguild.org

--From their home page:

Our Mission

The Programmers Guild advances the interests of technical and
professional workers in information technology (IT) fields. The
Programmers' Guild provides a forum where tech workers can speak as a
group and be heard; where we can act as a group to advocate our
interests; and where we can present our concerns as a group to those
whose decisions affect our lives. Our goal is to improve the work and
the workplaces of technical professionals across the spectrum of IT
fields and disciplines. Technology workers across the board must stand
together against the forces that put our careers at risk, such as:

    * Replacement by H-1B and L-1 visa workers
    * Outsourcing jobs to offshore contractors
    * Shifting jobs to overseas facilities
    * False claims of a labor shortage in our profession
    * Conversion of pensions to cash balance plans
    * Age discrimination
    * Job ads drafted with intent to exclude U.S. applicants
    * Lack of respect for our training, experience, knowledge, and
past achievements

Finally, the Programmers Guild assists the growing numbers in our
profession who are unemployed.

--end of excerpt

-- 
Zeke Krahlin
http://ezekielk.tblog.com


From pewterbot9 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 15 19:54:32 2009
From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:54:32 -0700
Subject: [buug] 2009 System Administrator Appreciation Party (FREE)
Message-ID: <a86954420907151954p406ac319o6cee6fd812982460@mail.gmail.com>

Event Details

Are you a System Administrator? Do you work hard 365 days per year, 24
hours per day to keep your network up and running, but are shown
little appreciation?

Then this party is for you!

On July 29, join OpenDNS ? the world's largest and fastest-growing DNS
provider ? and Meraki ? the world's leading cloud-based wireless LAN
provider ? as well as other System Administrators from around the Bay
and beyond to take a break from work and celebrate 2009 System
Administrator Month. We'll shower you with apprecation, give you great
music, stiff drinks and the company of some of the coolest, hardest
working, most talented people around.

Spread the word and invite your friends!

When

Wednesday, July 29, 2009 from 6:00 PM - 10:00 PM (PT)

Where

DNA Lounge
375 Eleventh Street, between Folsom and Harrison (near Harrison)
San Francisco, CA


The event is FREE. Register here:

http://2009sysadminappreciationparty.eventbrite.com/



From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Fri Jul 17 13:11:59 2009
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:59 -0700
Subject: [buug] BALUG: Tu 2009-07-21 Michael Paoli on Regular Expressions;
	+ other	news
Message-ID: <20090717131159.16756cdeqtm7oh0k@webmail.rawbw.com>

BALUG: Tu 2009-07-21 Michael Paoli on Regular Expressions; + other news

Bay Area Linux User Group (BALUG)
Tuesday 6:30 P.M. 2009-07-21

Please RSVP if you're planning to come (see further below).

For our 2009-07-21 BALUG meeting, we're excited to have Michael Paoli on
Regular Expressions[1]

Regular Expressions are a highly powerful tool for identifying strings
of text of interest (which may then be further manipulated, etc.)
Regular Expressions are present in a wide variety of
Linux/POSIX/SUS/UNIX/BSD tools, libraries, and languages, much - if not
most - of which is Open Source or for which Open Source versions exist.
Some examples include ed, grep, egrep, expr, vi, sed, awk, perl, C
(libraries), Apache, some shells, Java, JavaScript, Python, Ruby, and
many others.  In this talk, Michael Paoli will give a whirlwind
overview of Regular Expressions basics, some of the more advanced and
powerful capabilities, comparative overview of how Regular Expressions
differ in many of the various places they're implemented, and various
interesting bits along the way.

Mostly in the contexts of Linux/UNIX systems administration and utility
programming, Michael Paoli has been wrangling Regular Expressions for
well over 15 years, including perl regular expressions for about a
decade.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expressions

So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP:

         rsvp at balug.org

**Why RSVP??**

Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help the
Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and they help ensure that we'll be
able to eat upstairs in the private banquet room.

Meeting Details...

         6:30pm
         Tuesday, July 21st, 2009 2009-07-21

         Four Seas Restaurant http://www.fourseasr.com/
         731 Grant Ave.
         San Francisco, CA 94108
         Easy PARKING:
         Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny http://www.sfpsg.com/

Cost: The meetings are always free, but dinner is $13

After meeting meeting (?)
Presuming enough folks want to after the main meeting, those interested
may gather at a nearby venue (e.g. pub) for further discussion on, e.g.:
o BALUG steering committee (talk about what BALUG wants/needs to do and
   possible changes, etc.)
o stuff one can do to help BALUG
o ideas for possible future talks/presentations (got contacts/leads?)
o random Linux, etc. topics
o yet more regular expression stuff
o random networking
o insert your topic here :-)

miscellaneous note for those paying really close attention - if you
earlier heard about or were expecting a "working in the business" type
panel discussion that was earlier mentioned for 2009-07-21, that will
likely get rescheduled for some future date (encountered too many folks
on vacation or otherwise unavailable, and insufficient lead time for
2009-07-21 to make a viable date for the panel discussion).

------------------------------

Additional upcoming BALUG meetings:

2009-08-18 (spearker/presentation to be determined/confirmed)

2009-09-15 Christian Einfeld on: Help yourself by helping the
            underdog... public schools. (Linux, Open Source, ...)

------------------------------

Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we
should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or
things we should do differently): publicity-feedback at balug.org

http://www.balug.org/




From jim at well.com  Mon Jul 20 22:34:02 2009
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:34:02 -0700
Subject: [buug] BayPIGgies meeting at OSCON Thursday July 23,
	2009: Semantic Apps	with cubicweb
Message-ID: <1248154442.6642.34.camel@jim-laptop>


BayPIGgies meeting at OSCON Thursday July 23, 2009: 
Semantic Apps with CubicWeb, by Sandrine Ribeau 


Meetings start with a Newbie Nugget, a short discussion of an 
essential Python feature, specially for those new to Python. 

Tonight's Newbie Nugget:  Metaclasses, by Almir Karic 


NOTE: 
The July 23 BayPIGgies meeting is at OSCON, room B2, at 8:00 PM. 
Come at 7:00 PM for Wesley Chun's "What Is Python" talk in room B2. 

You must register to get in: 
Register to attend OSCON (free registration) 
https://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/register 

What's FREE at OSCON? 
http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/content/free 

The BayPIGgies meeting is part of the Birds of a Feather program: 
http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/schedule/stype/BoF 

Info about the BayPIGgies July Meeting 
http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/schedule/detail/10349 

Info about "What Is Python", by Wesley Chun, 7:00 PM Thursday July 23,
Room B2 
http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/schedule/detail/10214


LOCATION is at OSCON: 
San Jose McEnery Convention Center
150 West San Carlos St.
San Jose, CA 95113 
http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2009/public/content/hotel 


BayPIGgies meeting information is available at 
http://baypiggies.net/new/plone



------------------------ Agenda ------------------------

..... 8:00 PM ...........................
General hubbub, any first-minute announcements. 


..... 8:05 PM to 8:15 PM ................

Newbie Nugget: Metaclasses, by Almir Karic 

An all around look at metaclasses, covering intro, uses 
(good and bad), and alternatives. 



..... 8:15 PM to 9:00 PM ................

Tonight's talk: 
Semantic Apps with CubicWeb 
by Sandrine Ribeau 

The CubicWeb framework makes a construction game of building 
semantic web applications that have both a HTML/Ajax rich 
user interface and a RDF/OWL-based data interface.

This talk introduces the design of CubicWeb, focusing on key 
differences from other frameworks, such as applying views to 
selections of objects implementing the required interface, 
multi-database support, migration and versioning for maintenance 
over several years, and truly reusable components, with examples 
of integration within the Linked Data cloud, with Google Maps, 
and with faceted search.


..... 9:00 PM to 9:30 PM  ................
Mapping and Random Access

Mapping is a rapid-fire audience announcement of topics 
the announcers are interested in. 

Random Access follows immediately to allow follow up 
individually on the announcements and other topics of 
interest.




From pewterbot9 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 13:25:27 2009
From: pewterbot9 at gmail.com (Pewter Bot)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:25:27 -0700
Subject: [buug] Why Is Obama's Top Antitrust Cop Gunning for Google?
Message-ID: <a86954420907231325j731e2646la2778c02e85f6217@mail.gmail.com>

>From Wired Magazine:

Why Is Obama's Top Antitrust Cop Gunning for Google?
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-08/mf_googlopoly?currentPage=all

Pretty good analysis, includes Micro$oft's lawsuit history as well as
Google's antitrust issues. Something to consider before one get's too
deeply plugged into Google cloud applications and services. There
*are* alternatives.


-- 
Zeke Krahlin
http://ezekielk.tblog.com


From oly562 at charter.net  Fri Jul 24 11:46:23 2009
From: oly562 at charter.net (PR)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:46:23 -0700
Subject: [buug] Why Is Obama's Top Antitrust Cop Gunning for Google?
In-Reply-To: <a86954420907231325j731e2646la2778c02e85f6217@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a86954420907231325j731e2646la2778c02e85f6217@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A6A017F.40608@charter.net>

wtf is this?

Pewter Bot wrote:
> >From Wired Magazine:
>
> Why Is Obama's Top Antitrust Cop Gunning for Google?
> http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/17-08/mf_googlopoly?currentPage=all
>
> Pretty good analysis, includes Micro$oft's lawsuit history as well as
> Google's antitrust issues. Something to consider before one get's too
> deeply plugged into Google cloud applications and services. There
> *are* alternatives.
>
>
>   


From rubinson at u.arizona.edu  Mon Jul 27 12:47:53 2009
From: rubinson at u.arizona.edu (Claude Rubinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:47:53 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
Message-ID: <20090727194753.GM14802@wagner>

BUUGgers --

It's been a long time since I've been back to Berkeley and I probably
haven't been to a BUUG meeting in about 7 years.  But, in early
August, I'll be in town for the annual sociology meeting and it would
be great to catch up with all of you.  Unfortunately, I'll be missing
the regular BUUG meeting so I'm calling for an informal meeting in
concert with BAD (the other group that I was active with during my
time in the Bay area).

I've made a reservation at Triple Rock for Monday, August 3 starting
at 7pm.  For those who haven't been to Triple Rock, they serve a
number of house beers and have a full menu.  Their website is at
http://www.triplerock.com/.  It all ages until 10pm, when it becomes
21+.

I'll be there at 7pm with a sign, or just ask a server for the
BUUG/BAD table.

It'll be great to catch up with all of you, so I hope that you'll be
able to make it.  And if I don't know you, please stop by and
introduce yourself.

Claude


From rubinson at u.arizona.edu  Mon Jul 27 12:54:08 2009
From: rubinson at u.arizona.edu (Claude Rubinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:54:08 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
Message-ID: <20090727195408.GN14802@wagner>

Those of you who are subscribed to the BUUG list have already seen
this, but I'll be back in the Bay area for an academic conference in a
couple of weeks. This will be my first time back in probably 7 years,
and it would be great to catch up with friends from BUUG and BAD.

So, in flagrant violation of a number of the BAD shotgun rules--but
not its spirit!--I'm calling for a joint BUUG/BAD happy hour:

I've made a reservation at Triple Rock for Monday, August 3 starting
at 7pm.  For those who haven't been to Triple Rock, they serve a
number of house beers and have a full menu.  Their website is at
http://www.triplerock.com/.  It all ages until 10pm, when it becomes
21+.

I'll be there at 7pm with a sign, or just ask a server for the
BUUG/BAD table.

It'll be great to catch up with all of you, so I hope that you'll be
able to make it.  And if I don't know you, please stop by and
introduce yourself.

Claude


From rubinson at u.arizona.edu  Mon Jul 27 12:56:31 2009
From: rubinson at u.arizona.edu (Claude Rubinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:56:31 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
In-Reply-To: <20090727195408.GN14802@wagner>
References: <20090727195408.GN14802@wagner>
Message-ID: <20090727195631.GA26935@wagner>

Sorry, sorry!  My bad!  Was reusing the template from the previous email and
forgot to change to the To: header.  Already fixed and sent along to
BAD.

But take this as an indicator of how much my subconscious is looking
forward to catching up with y'all!

C.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:54:08PM -0700, Claude Rubinson wrote:
> Those of you who are subscribed to the BUUG list have already seen
> this, but I'll be back in the Bay area for an academic conference in a
> couple of weeks. This will be my first time back in probably 7 years,
> and it would be great to catch up with friends from BUUG and BAD.
> 
> So, in flagrant violation of a number of the BAD shotgun rules--but
> not its spirit!--I'm calling for a joint BUUG/BAD happy hour:
> 
> I've made a reservation at Triple Rock for Monday, August 3 starting
> at 7pm.  For those who haven't been to Triple Rock, they serve a
> number of house beers and have a full menu.  Their website is at
> http://www.triplerock.com/.  It all ages until 10pm, when it becomes
> 21+.
> 
> I'll be there at 7pm with a sign, or just ask a server for the
> BUUG/BAD table.
> 
> It'll be great to catch up with all of you, so I hope that you'll be
> able to make it.  And if I don't know you, please stop by and
> introduce yourself.
> 
> Claude
> _______________________________________________
> Buug mailing list
> Buug at weak.org
> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug
> 


From rubinson at u.arizona.edu  Mon Jul 27 20:45:12 2009
From: rubinson at u.arizona.edu (Claude Rubinson)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:45:12 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
In-Reply-To: <20090727194753.GM14802@wagner>
References: <20090727194753.GM14802@wagner>
Message-ID: <20090728034512.GH32133@wagner>

Whoops!  Sorry about the date confusion.  The header's correct: the
happy hour will be Mon, Aug 10 at Triple Rock from 7pm until whenever.

Claude

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:47:53PM -0700, Claude Rubinson wrote:
> BUUGgers --
> 
> It's been a long time since I've been back to Berkeley and I probably
> haven't been to a BUUG meeting in about 7 years.  But, in early
> August, I'll be in town for the annual sociology meeting and it would
> be great to catch up with all of you.  Unfortunately, I'll be missing
> the regular BUUG meeting so I'm calling for an informal meeting in
> concert with BAD (the other group that I was active with during my
> time in the Bay area).
> 
> I've made a reservation at Triple Rock for Monday, August 3 starting
> at 7pm.  For those who haven't been to Triple Rock, they serve a
> number of house beers and have a full menu.  Their website is at
> http://www.triplerock.com/.  It all ages until 10pm, when it becomes
> 21+.
> 
> I'll be there at 7pm with a sign, or just ask a server for the
> BUUG/BAD table.
> 
> It'll be great to catch up with all of you, so I hope that you'll be
> able to make it.  And if I don't know you, please stop by and
> introduce yourself.
> 
> Claude


From bill.honeycutt at gmail.com  Mon Jul 27 22:10:35 2009
From: bill.honeycutt at gmail.com (Wm. F. Honeycutt)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:10:35 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
In-Reply-To: <20090728034512.GH32133@wagner>
References: <20090727194753.GM14802@wagner> <20090728034512.GH32133@wagner>
Message-ID: <87acd5770907272210n2f90cb23veafbc3df024245ce@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, I see through your ploy  :->

You're using a confusing series emails to gather primary data for a social
experiment.  We're the guinea pigs, right!?

I look forward to seeing you Claude.  You'll need to report on how well your
pre-loaded Linux laptop has held up during grad school.  I finally got a
Dell with Hardy pre-installed, following in your footsteps.

Cheers!

Bill

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Claude Rubinson <rubinson at u.arizona.edu>wrote:

> Whoops!  Sorry about the date confusion.  The header's correct: the
> happy hour will be Mon, Aug 10 at Triple Rock from 7pm until whenever.
>
> Claude
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:47:53PM -0700, Claude Rubinson wrote:
> > BUUGgers --
> >
> > It's been a long time since I've been back to Berkeley and I probably
> > haven't been to a BUUG meeting in about 7 years.  But, in early
> > August, I'll be in town for the annual sociology meeting and it would
> > be great to catch up with all of you.  Unfortunately, I'll be missing
> > the regular BUUG meeting so I'm calling for an informal meeting in
> > concert with BAD (the other group that I was active with during my
> > time in the Bay area).
> >
> > I've made a reservation at Triple Rock for Monday, August 3 starting
> > at 7pm.  For those who haven't been to Triple Rock, they serve a
> > number of house beers and have a full menu.  Their website is at
> > http://www.triplerock.com/.  It all ages until 10pm, when it becomes
> > 21+.
> >
> > I'll be there at 7pm with a sign, or just ask a server for the
> > BUUG/BAD table.
> >
> > It'll be great to catch up with all of you, so I hope that you'll be
> > able to make it.  And if I don't know you, please stop by and
> > introduce yourself.
> >
> > Claude
> _______________________________________________
> Buug mailing list
> Buug at weak.org
> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug
>
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From rubinson at u.arizona.edu  Tue Jul 28 13:08:57 2009
From: rubinson at u.arizona.edu (Claude Rubinson)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:08:57 -0700
Subject: [buug] Happy hour Mon Aug 10 at Triple Rock
In-Reply-To: <87acd5770907272210n2f90cb23veafbc3df024245ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090727194753.GM14802@wagner> <20090728034512.GH32133@wagner>
	<87acd5770907272210n2f90cb23veafbc3df024245ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090728200856.GJ32133@wagner>

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:10:35PM -0700, Wm. F. Honeycutt wrote:
> Okay, I see through your ploy  :->
> 
> You're using a confusing series emails to gather primary data for a social
> experiment.  We're the guinea pigs, right!?

Nuts!  Now I'm going to have to start on a whole new dissertation!
You couldn't have kept that to yourself?!?

> I look forward to seeing you Claude.  You'll need to report on how well your
> pre-loaded Linux laptop has held up during grad school.  I finally got a
> Dell with Hardy pre-installed, following in your footsteps.

I'm really looking forward to catching up with everybody.

Claude