[buug] Reviving CalLUG

[Mark Lu]

I just added myself as a signatory for both groups.

You're right -- the policy prevents signifying any affiliation with Cal, 
but that's actually their main goal. Truth is, student organizations are 
run by students, but they're not officially endorsed by Cal. It's some 
legal ramifications that they have to protect themselves against -- 
namely, the possible loss of their trademark.

I might not be able to make the meeting this Thursday, but the Sundays 
and Thursdays are usually good for me. I will hopefully see you all then.

On 04/19/2011 06:33 PM, Paul Ivanov wrote:
> Mark Lu, on 2011-04-19 17:42,  wrote:
>> As a current Cal undergrad and signatory for one student group, I'd
>> be interested in assisting in this process.
> Great - I already made myself a signatory on both groups, so once
> you become one, we're half way to the required number of
> signatories. You can do that over here:
> http://campuslife.berkeley.edu/orgs/manage
>
> select these two groups:
> * Cal Linux User Group
> * GNU/Linux User Group at Cal
>
>> The results are strict due to trademark issues, but the name should
>> simply be registered as "Linux Users Group".
> well, the policy just makes no sense - it prevents student
> organizations from signifying any kind of affiliation with the
> university.
>
> Here are some allowed, and disallowed student group names,
> according to http://campuslife.berkeley.edu/orgs/new-group
>
>      EXAMPLES:
>
>      * Public Speaking Group at Berkeley – APPROVED
>      * Public Speaking Group of Berkeley – APPROVED
>      * Public Speaking Group at UC Berkeley – NOT APPROVED
>      * Public Speaking at Cal – NOT APPROVED
>      * Berkeley Public Speaking Group – NOT APPROVED
>      * Cal Public Speaking Group – NOT APPROVED
>      * California Public Speaking Group – NOT APPROVED
>      * Public Speaking Group at California – NOT APPROVED
>      * Public Speaking Group, Berkeley – NOT APPROVED
>      * Berkeley Campus Public Speaking – NOT APPROVED
>
> so if at most we're allowed to call the group "Linux User Group
> at/of Berkeley" - there's already a BerkeleyLUG - it meets on
> Sundays and has no affiliation with the university.
>
> Anyway, the fact that "GNU/Linux User Group at Cal" group name
> has already been approved - we can just continue to use that,
> but like Michael (see below), this is the short version of my
> opinion on this matter.
>
>
>> Let me know if you'd like to follow up or have any questions or concerns.
> Would you be able to make it to either the BUUG or BerkeleyLUG
> meetings on Thursday and Sunday, respectively (see Michael's
> notes on the matter below).
>
> Michael Paoli, on 2011-04-19 17:44,  wrote:
>> [trying to not be too redundant :-)][1]
>>
>> Thanks Paul, et. al.[1]
>>
>> Sounds like keeping CalLUG alive / reviving it is generally a good idea.
>> If feasible, keeping the same name may also be good - but having a
>> "Plan B" for an alternate name, in case the original can't still be used,
>> sounds like a good idea.  (At least that's short version of my opinion
>> on the name bits).
>>
>> As both BUUG and the
>> Berkeley Linux Users Group http://www.berkeleylug.com/
>> both meet again within the week (Th and Su respectively),
>> perhaps it may also be useful to discuss it there, and then
>> follow-up on list(s) to see if there's consensus (or approximation
>> thereof).
>
> Sounds like a plan, see you Thursday.
>
>> In the meantime, also taking any necessary steps to keep CalLUG from
>> totally disappearing (e.g. the mail list), sounds good.
> The fine folks over at UC Berkeley IST already made me the list
> admin for both lists, here's some more information about them.
>
> There are 116 addresses subscribed to callug_announce at lists.berkeley.edu
> There are 17 addresses subscribed to callug_discuss at lists.berkeley.edu.
>
>> Anyway, sounds like there are definitely some good possibilities and
>> opportunities for synergy, etc.
>>
>> footnotes/references/excerpts:
>> 1. see "thread" on:
>> http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2011-April/date.html
>
> best,
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Buug mailing list
> Buug at weak.org
> http://www.weak.org/mailman/listinfo/buug