[buug] Berkeley Unix User's Group

Karen Hogoboom khogoboom at gmail.com
Thu Jun 9 17:41:54 PDT 2011

I am just attempting to defend my good name.  I'm sorry that you decided to
start a flame war about it.

I would prefer to attend polite user group meetings and be on polite email
lists where women are not dissed without people looking into those women's
credentials first.

Just because a woman is over 40 is no reason to start abusing her in public.


On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Karen Hogoboom (khogoboom at gmail.com):
> > I am on the buug mailing list and I did not get an original copy of the
> > email.  jaimef responded to me personally that buug is a moderated list
> and
> > that his posting did not get in.  Are you sure it was buug that he posted
> to
> > originally?
> You're _still_ on about that?  And somehow that's _my_ problem?
> Yes, buug at weak.org was in jaimef at mauthesis.com's list of recipients on
> the mail (of his) that I received and to which I replied-all.  Something
> like:
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: buug at weak.org
> If I had to speculate, it might have been that jaimef at mauthesis.com
> had posted from a non-subscribed address, such that Mailman then discarded
> or rejected his posting, such that subscribers other than me didn't get
> copies.  Not really my concern:  I'm not the listadmin.  Point is, I
> reasonably interpreted what I'd received as being a mailing list
> posting, because the author's headers said it was one.
> OK?  I am not jaimef at mauthesis.com's keeper.  Nor am I a free-of-charge
> public utility for analysis of other people's SMTP puzzles.
> > > > I will now assume that cross-posting is o.k.
> > >
> > > Your statement appears to be non-sequitur
> >
> > My guess was that you know him from another list or another context
> > that I am not included in, and that you quoted him into our
> > discussion.
> _Why_ am I obliged to explain why your statement was non-sequitur,
> Karen?  Can't you figure it out?
> You stated that you had concluded that 'cross-posting is o.k.', thus
> implicitly assuming that I'd cross-posted.  As you should have
> understood long before now, your assumption was simply incorrect:
> I had not cross-posted.  Therefore, your assumption that my
> cross-posting made cross-posting OK was non-sequitur (even if it were
> true that my doing X automatically makes X OK, which is obviously not a
> rational conclusion even if it is at least a tiny bit flattering).
> Now, please, if there are aspects of mailing list management that you're
> having a problem with, kindly cease bothering me, your fellow
> subscriber.  I don't even administer this mailing list.  Like Zaphod
> Beeblebrox, I'm just this guy, y'know?
> I shouldn't be obliged to waste huge amounts of time for no better
> reason than (speculating) jaimef at mauthesis.com attempting to post from
> an unsubscribed address and you then being unable to figure out what
> happened and posting bad guesses about it.  Please don't bother me again
> about this.  Thank you.
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Karen Lee Hogoboom
Computer Programmer
Phone:  (510) 666-8298
Mobile:  (510) 407-4363

khogoboom at gmail.com
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