[buug] learning shell (Shell book), etc. - objectives?

Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu
Thu May 5 18:16:33 PDT 2011

Unix/Linux is quite relevant for many areas, shell is or may be rather
to quite relevant for many areas too.  Can you say a bit more about
objectives, or what you hope to find/achieve, or what you wish to
have/find in such book(s) you seek?  Perhaps a bit more about what you
did/didn't like in the book(s) you've looked at so far.

Besides myself, there are probably many on this list that may be able
to make some excellent recommendations - but it would likely help if we
better knew what you were more/most specifically interested in, and
perhaps also what type(s)/style(s) of books you find more - and less -
useful/effective for you (not everyone likes or prefers the same style
or type of book - different approaches and materials often work
differently for various folks).

Also, disclaimer :-) ... I've read *very* few shell books (close to
zero), so I'm probably not best one to make recommendation on *shell*
books.  I've read many Unix/Linux and related books - but there are
also many such books I've also not read - many of which may also be
good/excellent.  (In more recent years, I'm typically mostly reading
various bits of reference materials, articles, and the like, rather
than entire books on such topics ... though there are exceptions, and
sometimes I also use suitable books for reference or to clarify
points/areas that aren't otherwise documented or very well documented).

> From: "Karen Hogoboom" <khogoboom at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: learning shell (Shell book), etc.
> Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:24:59 -0700

> Michael, please tell me which book on UNIX you recommend if you have the
> time and if you still think it's relevant.  I took a look at Ian's book, but
> it's not the type of reference book that I find useful.  O'Reilly is not as
> good as it used to be.
> Karen
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Michael Paoli <
> Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> Oh, there are definitely books on the topic, ... many, ... even
>> rather/quite good ones.
>> The reason I often/typically start folks with Bourne sh(1) from UNIX
>> Seventh Edition (quoting myself[1]):
>> o most of what one needs to use for scripting/programming purposes
>>  exists in ye olde (UNIX Seventh Edition) Bourne Shell, and still
>>  functions essentially the same way
>> o Very concise reference: UNIX Seventh Edition sh(1) only 6 pages!
>> If one wants more concise materials on shell than an entire book, one
>> might also consider books on Unix, Linux or BSD or systems
>> administration of same.  Such books will often have a chapter on the
>> shell and shell programming.
>> footnotes/references/excerpts:
>> 1. http://www.rawbw.com/~mp/unix/sh/#Why_start_here
>> From: "Karen Hogoboom" <khogoboom at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [buug] Shell book
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:09:31 -0700
>> Thanks Ian.  I would be interested in taking a look at it.  I'm planning to
>>> be at the next meeting.
>>> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
>>> Hi, this is the book I mentioned at the last meeting.  It is a bit
>>>> similar to the Kernighan & Pike but much updated and extended.
>>>> Again, I can loan it to you if you're interested.
>>>> http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005955/
> --
> Karen L. Hogoboom
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/karenlhogoboom

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