From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Tue Dec 2 01:15:58 2014 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 01:15:58 -0800 Subject: [buug] Books for BUUG and ... Message-ID: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> I've got some books to distribute to some user groups - including BUUG. These are review copies from Pearson Education (they'd of course quite appreciate if you write a review - especially on Amazon.com for the particular title and edition). I received 4 copies each of the physical books noted further below. I'll be doing my semi-usual of giving a book (or two) away per user group as I cycle through upcoming user group meetings I go to (given the quantity received, I'll likely do up to 2 books per user group, at least until each group has had at least one chance at getting books). Want to increase your odds of getting one of these books? :-) I'll consider these factors: o make it to the meeting (that's where I generally give the book(s) away for some person(s) in the user group) o drop a note to the list regarding which title(s) you're interested in (in preference order if more than one), (and for what (noble) purpose(s)) o make it to the meeting on time (or best approximations thereof) o which such note(s) of interest are posted earliest/earlier to list I may also manage to get copies of The Official Ubuntu Book signed by one of the (local) authors. Practice of Cloud System Administration, The: Designing and Operating Large Distributed Systems, Volume 2 By Thomas A. Limoncelli, Strata R. Chalup, Christina J. Hogan Published Sep 3, 2014 by Addison-Wesley Professional. Copyright 2015 Dimensions: 7" x 9-1/8" Pages: 560 Edition: 1st Book ISBN-10: 0-321-94318-X ISBN-13: 978-0-321-94318-7 http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=032194318X Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System, The, 2nd Edition By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil, Robert N.M. Watson Published Sep 5, 2014 by Addison-Wesley Professional. Copyright 2015 Dimensions: 6-1/4" x 9-1/4" Pages: 928 Edition: 2nd Book ISBN-10: 0-321-96897-2 ISBN-13: 978-0-321-96897-5 http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0321968972 Official Ubuntu Book, The, 8th Edition By Matthew Helmke, Elizabeth Joseph, José Antonio Rey, Philip Ballew, Benjamin Mako Hill Published Jul 15, 2014 by Prentice Hall. Copyright 2015 Dimensions: 7" x 9-1/8" Pages: 368 Edition: 8th Book ISBN-10: 0-13-390539-X ISBN-13: 978-0-13-390539-7 http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=013390539X From pi at berkeley.edu Tue Dec 2 12:19:32 2014 From: pi at berkeley.edu (Paul Ivanov) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 12:19:32 -0800 Subject: [buug] Books for BUUG and ... In-Reply-To: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael, I'd love to get a copy of the FreeBSD book. I started playing around with jails in 10 about a year ago, and now have a laptop with OS X on it and have been meaning to learn to use DTrace. Also, the whole systemd controversy in Debian seems like will bring more converts to the ways of beastie. My second preference would be the cloud book. best, -- Paul Ivanov http://pirsquared.org | GPG/PGP key id: 0x0F3E28F7 From freebsdnoob at gmail.com Tue Dec 2 13:30:14 2014 From: freebsdnoob at gmail.com (FreeBSD) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 13:30:14 -0800 Subject: [buug] Fwd: Books for BUUG and ... In-Reply-To: References: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: I guess I accidentally selected Reply, when to the group was the preference. Cheers ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: FreeBSD Date: Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [buug] Books for BUUG and ... To: Michael Paoli Hi Michael, As a new user to the BSD's, I am very interested in the Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System, The, 2nd Edition. I have heard about this new book through one of my favorite podcasts regarding BSD. Google is a great resource, but if you do not know, what you do not know, then you have to rely on simply stumbling upon the hidden treasures. Also, I would not mind upgrading my email address - fetch and install did not work. Thank you and the BUUG. On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Michael Paoli < Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu> wrote: > I've got some books to distribute to some user groups - including BUUG. > These are review copies from Pearson Education (they'd of course quite > appreciate if you write a review - especially on Amazon.com for the > particular title and edition). > > I received 4 copies each of the physical books noted further below. > I'll be doing my semi-usual of giving a book (or two) away per user > group as I cycle through upcoming user group meetings I go to (given the > quantity received, I'll likely do up to 2 books per user group, at least > until each group has had at least one chance at getting books). > > Want to increase your odds of getting one of these books? :-) > I'll consider these factors: > o make it to the meeting (that's where I generally give the book(s) > away for some person(s) in the user group) > o drop a note to the list regarding which title(s) you're interested in > (in preference order if more than one), (and for what (noble) > purpose(s)) > o make it to the meeting on time (or best approximations thereof) > o which such note(s) of interest are posted earliest/earlier to list > > I may also manage to get copies of The Official Ubuntu Book signed by > one of the (local) authors. > > Practice of Cloud System Administration, The: Designing and Operating > Large Distributed Systems, Volume 2 > By Thomas A. Limoncelli, Strata R. Chalup, Christina J. Hogan > Published Sep 3, 2014 by Addison-Wesley Professional. > Copyright 2015 > Dimensions: 7" x 9-1/8" > Pages: 560 > Edition: 1st > Book > ISBN-10: 0-321-94318-X > ISBN-13: 978-0-321-94318-7 > http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=032194318X > > Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System, The, 2nd > Edition > By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil, Robert N.M. Watson > Published Sep 5, 2014 by Addison-Wesley Professional. > Copyright 2015 > Dimensions: 6-1/4" x 9-1/4" > Pages: 928 > Edition: 2nd > Book > ISBN-10: 0-321-96897-2 > ISBN-13: 978-0-321-96897-5 > http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0321968972 > > Official Ubuntu Book, The, 8th Edition > By Matthew Helmke, Elizabeth Joseph, José Antonio Rey, Philip Ballew, > Benjamin Mako Hill > Published Jul 15, 2014 by Prentice Hall. > Copyright 2015 > Dimensions: 7" x 9-1/8" > Pages: 368 > Edition: 8th > Book > ISBN-10: 0-13-390539-X > ISBN-13: 978-0-13-390539-7 > http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=013390539X > > > _______________________________________________ > buug mailing list > buug at buug.org > http://buug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/buug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu Thu Dec 4 05:49:21 2014 From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:49:21 -0800 Subject: [buug] Books for BUUG and ... In-Reply-To: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <20141202011558.17281s4fgnen8z7o@webmail.rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20141204054921.132126qanwhzhgtc@webmail.rawbw.com> Glad to see the interest in the books. I'll bring books to this evening's meeting, and presuming folks make it to the meeting, I should have enough with me to cover the interests I've seen expressed thus far on the list, and will plan to give away two books at this meeting. references: http://buug.org/pipermail/buug/2014-December/date.html http://buug.org/ From itz at buug.org Fri Dec 12 21:55:37 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:55:37 -0800 Subject: [buug] Sought: A dog simple image viewer Message-ID: <20141212215537.02b2f200.itz@buug.org> As a part of a funny personal workflow I got used to (do not ask about details :), I display an image in a window as a sort of warning to myself, or poor man's notification, or something like that. When the condition stops, I close the window (by clicking its close button, from its window manager menu, or by similar means) and the little script from which the image is shown knows I am done and cleans up. This protocol works mostly fine; as I've said, I am very used to it and I don't want to change it in any major way. As the program for showing the image I currently use "display", also known as "gm display", from the graphicsmagick suite. But this program has a minor problem: it has features, in particular keybindings, so if it is focussed accidentally [1] and I don't notice, it does weird things, opening new windows and what not. So, I am looking for a wholly featureless image viewer. One that just displays the image in its natural size in a window and stays inert afterwards, not reacting to any keyboard input. So far, I've not found one: geeqie, qiv, pqiv, sxiv, you name it it has keyboard bindings :-( Thus, this message to the all knowing buug. [1] I configure my WM to not focus it when it pops up, but it can be focussed by accident later if I cycle focus and stop at the wrong window. I can't completely stop it from getting focus because I still want to be able to kill it by keyboard when done. -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From cjr at grundrisse.org Fri Dec 12 22:21:16 2014 From: cjr at grundrisse.org (Claude Jager-Rubinson) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:21:16 -0600 Subject: [buug] Sought: A dog simple image viewer In-Reply-To: <20141212215537.02b2f200.itz@buug.org> References: <20141212215537.02b2f200.itz@buug.org> Message-ID: <20141213062116.GD4299@wagner> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:55:37PM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > So, I am looking for a wholly featureless image viewer. One that just > displays the image in its natural size in a window and stays inert > afterwards, not reacting to any keyboard input. So far, I've not found > one: geeqie, qiv, pqiv, sxiv, you name it it has keyboard bindings :-( > Thus, this message to the all knowing buug. feh. It too has keybindings but allows you to unbind them via the config file. See the man page. From itz at buug.org Sat Dec 13 00:00:40 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:00:40 -0800 Subject: [buug] Sought: A dog simple image viewer In-Reply-To: <20141213062116.GD4299@wagner> References: <20141212215537.02b2f200.itz@buug.org> <20141213062116.GD4299@wagner> Message-ID: <20141213000040.58f28bb4.itz@buug.org> On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:21:16 -0600, Claude Jager-Rubinson wrote: > feh. It too has keybindings but allows you to unbind them via the > config file. See the man page. Indeed, problem solved. Thank you Claude! -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: From itz at buug.org Sat Dec 27 19:26:59 2014 From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 19:26:59 -0800 Subject: [buug] [OT][Bait] Golang, Python, exceptions Message-ID: <20141227192659.293ada53.itz@buug.org> I keep hearing (including the last meeting) how most new Go programmers seem to be former Python programmers, to the surprise of Go leaders. Presumably they're attracted mainly by the easy and efficient multithreading in Go. But when I think of it exceptions are a big part of why much Python code seems relatively easy on the eye [1], and Go infamously lacks exceptions. So how do the migrants cope? Can one really switch back to checking error conditions literally every second line, after experiencing the liberating feeling of exceptions? Or had these people never been at home in Python in the first place? [1] Not all Python code, of course (**COUGH** SQLAlchemy **COUGH**) -- Please *no* private copies of mailing list or newsgroup messages. Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Local Variables: mode:claws-external End: