From itz at buug.org  Wed Jan  1 17:41:34 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 17:41:34 -0800
Subject: [buug] First meeting of 2014
Message-ID: <20140101174134.43b8ccee.itz@buug.org>

At the last meeting Michael said he might not be able to come tomorrow,
so I took the sign and I plan to be there around 7 (perhaps very shortly
after 7).  See you there, and happy new year!

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From itz at buug.org  Thu Jan  2 22:27:14 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:27:14 -0800
Subject: [buug] First meeting of 2014
In-Reply-To: <20140101174134.43b8ccee.itz@buug.org>
References: <20140101174134.43b8ccee.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20140102222714.1af65d07.itz@buug.org>

On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 17:41:34 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> At the last meeting Michael said he might not be able to come
> tomorrow, so I took the sign and I plan to be there around 7 (perhaps
> very shortly after 7).  See you there, and happy new year!

We had a nice old timers meeting with attendance by me, Henriques and
our resident Java expert (who happens to be female, but that has nothing
to do with her expertise and I only mention it for identification
purposes).  Topics ranged from the technical to the metaphysical :-)

I am not sure I will be able to come next time, so I need to arrange a
handover of the sign in the next two weeks.  Michael?

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From itz at buug.org  Tue Jan 14 17:46:03 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:46:03 -0800
Subject: [buug] Must pass sign [Was: First meeting of 2014]
In-Reply-To: <20140102222714.1af65d07.itz@buug.org>
References: <20140101174134.43b8ccee.itz@buug.org>
 <20140102222714.1af65d07.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20140114174603.0f617aae.itz@buug.org>

On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:27:14 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> I am not sure I will be able to come next time, so I need to arrange a
> handover of the sign in the next two weeks.  Michael?

Anyone?

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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Tue Jan 14 20:22:18 2014
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 20:22:18 -0800
Subject: [buug] Must pass sign [Was: First meeting of 2014]
In-Reply-To: <20140114174603.0f617aae.itz@buug.org>
References: <20140101174134.43b8ccee.itz@buug.org>
 <20140102222714.1af65d07.itz@buug.org>
 <20140114174603.0f617aae.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20140114202218.17206tel1ac94oco@webmail.rawbw.com>

I'll be there this Thursday.  As per more-or-less usual.

> From: "Ian Zimmerman" <itz at buug.org>
> Subject: [buug] Must pass sign [Was: First meeting of 2014]
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:46:03 -0800

> On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:27:14 -0800
> Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure I will be able to come next time, so I need to arrange a
>> handover of the sign in the next two weeks.  Michael?
>
> Anyone?
>
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From itz at buug.org  Tue Jan 14 22:26:57 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:26:57 -0800
Subject: [buug] OT: Blog compiler that uses relative paths
Message-ID: <20140114222657.3d7c33d6.itz@buug.org>


This is off topic but I figure I have a better chance to have this
answered here (if there is a good answer).

I am looking for a static blog compiler/renderer.  That is, for a
program that takes a bunch of text files (maybe written in rst, markdown
or something like that) and produces a tree of html and css files with
the structure of a blog (split into years, months, days, categories and
what not).  Really any static website generator, as the blog structure
is just a special case.

So far, I have looked at mnemosyne [1] and pyblosxom [2].  More than
looked, I tried to use them.  Unfortunately, they both employ the
following pattern (or antipattern, as it seems to me):

In a config file:

blah blah blah
foo bar
...
base_url = http://my.domain.org/~itz/blog
...

In a template file, called something like html.template:

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="$(base_url)/default.css" type="text/css" />
    ...
  </head>
  <body>
  $(content)
  </body>
</html>

and then the rendering program fills the template and puts this into the
head of _every_ html file in the resulting structure, regardless of how
many levels deep:

    <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://my.domain.org/~itz/blog/default.css" type="text/css" />

This means I cannot test the look of the generated site by browsing it
locally, before I upload it to the webserver.  Which kind of defeats the
point of a static generator.

To me, a site compiler worth the name is at least smart enough to do
this:

html files in top level directory -
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="default.css" type="text/css" />

html files in 1st level subdirectory -
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="../default.css" type="text/css" />

html files in 2nd level subdirectory -
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="../../default.css" type="text/css" />

etc.

And the stylesheet is just the most obvious, most prominent example.
The same should be done with all internal links (and neither of the
packages I tried does it).

Does anyone know of a prgram that would help me?

[1]
http://www.red-bean.com/decklin/mnemosyne/

[2]
http://pyblosxom.github.io/

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From jim at well.com  Wed Jan 15 10:11:19 2014
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 10:11:19 -0800
Subject: [buug] LUGs at SCALE
Message-ID: <1389809479.2714.248.camel@jim-LAPTOP>

Regarding 
Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE) 
Friday, February 21, through Sunday, February 23 
Hilton Los Angeles Airport hotel 
https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale12x 

There is a good chance that SCALE 12X will support a general LUG
table/booth. 

This depends on sufficient interest among the LUG community to staff the
table/booth. I've taken on the responsibility for querying the greater
SF bay area LUGs. The organizers say there is some interest from
Southern California LUGs. 

The most important thing, assuming there will be such a booth, is that
it has printed, take-away information about LUGs as well as someone at
the table. I'm hoping we'll have a map showing locations of northern
California LUGs and a companion list of LUG web sites. 

If you are planning to attend SCALE, please let me know if 
* you are willing to help staff a LUG booth (this entails 
  being there for a couplel of hours at a time and maybe 
  smiling and waving, perhaps explaining what LUGs are 
  about or, more likely, what your LUG is about. In Linux 
  World expos there was a regular stream of people with 
  interesting comments and queries. Hopefully we'll have 
  several people who can take short shifts. 
* you can provide printed information about your LUG that 
  someone can take down for the table/booth (I can drive 
  things down there). 
* you can suggest contacting some LUG or Linux-related 
  group that is not on the list of groups to which I'm 
  sending this email (see below). 

I'm hoping to be able to reply "yay" or "nay" to the SCALE organizers by
the end of this week. 

Hopefully, wtih thanks, 
jim (member of SF-LUG and BALUG) 


List of LUGs and related groups 

BAD Bay Area Debian (SF and east bay -- I'm not subscribed to this mail
list) 
Felton Linux Group (I'm not subscribed to this mail list) 

BALUG (SF), 
BerkeleyLUG, 
BUUG (berkeley) 
Conspire-LinuxMafia (peninsula), 
DVLUG (Walnut Creek-Concord), 
LinuxChix, 
LUGOD (Davis), 
NBLUG (Sebastapol), 
OpenHatch, 
OLPC-SF (One Laptop Per Child SF), 
SF-LUG, 
SVLUG (peninsula), 

bayPIGgies, 
py4science 



From itz at buug.org  Wed Jan 15 21:22:47 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 21:22:47 -0800
Subject: [buug] OT: Blog compiler that uses relative paths
In-Reply-To: <20140114222657.3d7c33d6.itz@buug.org>
References: <20140114222657.3d7c33d6.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20140115212247.36318c0a.itz@buug.org>

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:26:57 -0800
Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:

> This means I cannot test the look of the generated site by browsing it
> locally, before I upload it to the webserver.  Which kind of defeats
> the point of a static generator.

Following up to myself ...

I now see that I have stepped into the midst of a religious war:

http://yoast.com/relative-urls-issues/

So let me spell out the reasons why I still want relative links.

1. I don't run any indexer or spider myself, and I don't care about
other people's spiders.  In fact, I prefer my blog to not be indexed.

2. My dev/test environment is offline, I look at it using file:/// URLs
and when I'm happy with it I rsync it to the server.  Or at least that's
how I _want_ it to work, those stupid absolute links stop me.

3. The blog site is _only_ accessible with https, so there is no danger
of mixing up protocols.

I think this addresses all the points of the webby know-it-alls.  Or is
there another reason to avoid relative links?

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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Fri Jan 17 07:22:39 2014
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:22:39 -0800
Subject: [buug] BALUG meeting Tu 2014-01-21: CiviCRM - Tim Otten, ...;
	& other	BALUG news
Message-ID: <20140117072239.12457byqot6nm6o8@webmail.rawbw.com>

BALUG meeting 2014-01-21: CiviCRM - Tim Otten, ...; & other BALUG news

------------------------------

items, details further below:
BALUG meeting Tu 2014-01-21: CiviCRM - Tim Otten, Dave Greenberg, ...
giveaways (CDs/DVDs, ...)
volunteering to help BALUG (and add to your resume/experience)
Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org

------------------------------

For our 2014-01-21 BALUG meeting, we're proud to present:

CiviCRM[1] Open source constituent relationship management for non-profits,
NGOs and advocacy organizations.

For our 2014-01-21 meeting we have talk/presentation on CiviCRM by some
folks from CiviCRM -
Tim Otten - software architect
Dave Greenberg - core engineering team member
The talk will cover CiviCRM and will likely cover areas such as:
overview of Civi - the software and the project
approaches to extending and customizing the platform
and may also at least touch upon:
application level features
architecture
extensibility
API
and other areas.
Feel free to ask your questions in advance on the BALUG-Talk[2] list, or
bring your questions the meeting.

1. https://civicrm.org/
2. http://lists.balug.org/listinfo.cgi/balug-talk-balug.org

So, if you'd like to join us please RSVP to:

                        rsvp at balug.org

**Why RSVP??**

Well, don't worry we won't turn you away, but the RSVPs really help
BALUG and the Four Seas Restaurant plan the meal and meeting, and with
sufficient attendance, they also help ensure that we'll be able to eat
upstairs in the private banquet room.

Meeting Details...

                        6:30pm
                        Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 2014-01-21

                        Four Seas Restaurant
http://www.fourseasr.com/
                        731 Grant Ave.
                        San Francisco, CA 94108
                        Easy PARKING:
                          Portsmouth Square Garage at 733 Kearny:
                          http://www.sfpsg.com/

Cost: The meetings are always free, but for dinner, for your gift of $13
           cash, we give you a gift of dinner - joining us for a yummy
           family-style Chinese dinner - tax and tip included (your gift
           also helps in our patronizing the restaurant venue).

------------------------------

We typically have various giveaway items at BALUG meetings.  We'll
likely have at least the below plus additional items.

CDs/DVDs/ISOs, etc. - have a peek here:
http://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc
We may also be able to "burn" images per request or copy to USB flash,
etc.  Donations of blank or +-RW media, USB flash, or funding thereof,
also appreciated.  See the above URL for details (and the inventory
(qty.) of what we specifically have "burned" and available on-hand does
also frequently change).

------------------------------

volunteering to help BALUG (and add to your resume/experience)

Not only can you do useful and cool stuff volunteering to help BALUG,
but it can also be a way to gain useful and practical experience, and
could also be something to add to or round out one's resume.

There a quite a variety of opportunities to help BALUG.  Come talk to us
at a meeting and/or drop us a note at:
balug-contact at balug.org
These opportunities may include, among other possibilities:
o assist on speaker coordination/procurement, etc.
o assist on publicity
o chief/assistant cat herder
o Linux Systems Administration (e.g. do/assist/learn, with/under some
   quite experienced and skilled Linux systems administrators).
o webmaster, assistant webmaster, designer, graphic artist
o archivist/history/retrieval/etc.
o and other various/miscellaneous tasks BALUG "ought" to be doing or
   would be good to do (feel free to suggest ideas!)

------------------------------

Twitter - you can also follow BALUG on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org

------------------------------

Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we
should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or
things we should do differently): publicity-feedback at balug.org

------------------------------



From jim at well.com  Fri Jan 17 12:03:50 2014
From: jim at well.com (jim)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:03:50 -0800
Subject: [buug] Request for info about your group for the LUG booth at SCALE
Message-ID: <1389989030.2740.117.camel@jim-LAPTOP>


    I'm hoping someone in your group can send me information 
that I can use at SCALE (Southern California Linux Expo) 
on the weekend of February 21, 22, 23. 
    I plan on making an info sheet (or map) for all 
northern California LUGs. 

* Where do you hold your meetings (address, any other 
info about access)? 

* When do you hold your meetings (probably a particular 
day of the month, e.g. third Tuesday), include day 
and also time? 

* What's the format of your meetings (regular speaker 
or meet and greet or support for users or all of 
the above or ...)? 

* Do your group have a web site? If so, please 
provide the URL. 

* Are you interested in getting speakers for your 
meetings? 

    If you know of any LUGs not on the list below, 
please send me contact info. 

    If you are going to SCALE, there definitely 
will be a LUG booth and it will definitely need 
people to staff it and anyone staffing the booth 
(put in a couple of hours at least one day) can 
get an exhibitor's pass. Let me know, please, so 
I can add your name and coordinate hours. 


List of LUGs and related groups 

BAD Bay Area Debian (SF and east bay -- I'm not subscribed to this mail
list) 
Felton Linux Group (I'm not subscribed to this mail list) 
EBLUG (I'm not subscribed to this mail list) 

BALUG (SF), 
BerkeleyLUG, 
BUUG (berkeley) 
Conspire-LinuxMafia (peninsula), 
DVLUG (Walnut Creek-Concord), 
LinuxChix, 
LUGOD (Davis), 
NBLUG (Sebastapol), 
OpenHatch, 
OLPC-SF (One Laptop Per Child SF), 
SF-LUG, 
SVLUG (peninsula), 

bayPIGgies, 
py4science 
(any other language-related groups that pertain to Linux?) 



From pi at berkeley.edu  Fri Jan 17 14:28:38 2014
From: pi at berkeley.edu (Paul Ivanov)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:28:38 -0800
Subject: [buug] OT: Blog compiler that uses relative paths
In-Reply-To: <20140115212247.36318c0a.itz@buug.org>
References: <20140114222657.3d7c33d6.itz@buug.org>
 <20140115212247.36318c0a.itz@buug.org>
Message-ID: <20140117222838.GW4757@HbI-OTOH.berkeley.edu>

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 22:26:57 -0800 Ian Zimmerman <itz at buug.org> wrote:
> This means I cannot test the look of the generated site by browsing it
> locally, before I upload it to the webserver.  Which kind of defeats
> the point of a static generator.

I've been using Pelican and pretty happy with it. It's written in Python
and supports markdown (when you install a markdown package. Previewing
the content works by having a root SITEURL in pelicanconf.py being
file:///path/todir which is overridden in the publishconf.py file used
be the `make publish` target to be the location.

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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Sat Jan 18 10:37:35 2014
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 10:37:35 -0800
Subject: [buug] Request for info about your group for the LUG booth
	at	SCALE
In-Reply-To: <1389989030.2740.117.camel@jim-LAPTOP>
References: <1389989030.2740.117.camel@jim-LAPTOP>
Message-ID: <20140118103735.11503fi8b1g7qcsg@webmail.rawbw.com>

Jim,

o you have any more information on the approximate volume of text
you're looking for for each group, e.g. min., max., and recommended
sizes, to get things to fit reasonably well together, and look good
overall?

Anyway, (at least) draft information below.  Others may also improve
upon such and/or provide additional or better information.  Hmmmm, got
wiki to assemble such on? - that might make putting 'em together a bit
easier and more "self-serve".


Berkeley Unix User Group (BUUG)
* Where do you hold your meetings (address, any other
info about access)?
Au Coquelet
2000 University Ave.
Berkeley, CA

* When do you hold your meetings (probably a particular
day of the month, e.g. third Tuesday), include day
and also time?
1st & 3rd Thursdays 7 P.M. - 9 P.M.

* What's the format of your meetings (regular speaker
or meet and greet or support for users or all of
the above or ...)?
Informal discussion - Linux, BSD, Unix, Open Source, and other related,
semi-related (and even not-so-related) topics.

* Does your group have a web site? If so, please
provide the URL.
http://www.buug.org/

* Are you interested in getting speakers for your
meetings?
N/A (but all are welcome to join us)

references:
http://buug.org/pipermail/buug/2014-January/004029.html



From itz at buug.org  Sat Jan 18 20:53:58 2014
From: itz at buug.org (Ian Zimmerman)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:53:58 -0800
Subject: [buug] OT: Blog compiler that uses relative paths
In-Reply-To: <20140117222838.GW4757@HbI-OTOH.berkeley.edu>
References: <20140114222657.3d7c33d6.itz@buug.org>
 <20140115212247.36318c0a.itz@buug.org>
 <20140117222838.GW4757@HbI-OTOH.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <20140118205358.5ed5c0ba.itz@buug.org>

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:28:38 -0800
Paul Ivanov <pi at berkeley.edu> wrote:

Paul> I've been using Pelican and pretty happy with it. It's written in
Paul> Python and supports markdown (when you install a markdown package.
Paul> Previewing the content works by having a root SITEURL in
Paul> pelicanconf.py being file:///path/todir which is overridden in the
Paul> publishconf.py file used be the `make publish` target to be the
Paul> location.

I got another recommendation for Pelican so I gave it a try, and I will
probably start using it.  Thanks for mentioning it.

Though I must say that even with Pelican the local copy isn't
_literally_ the same as the server copy, and _of course_ first time I
published, there was a style difference (due to the freeking Google
font, which I promptly removed from the stylesheet).  _Exactly_ why I
still want them to be the same, relative links and all.

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