From rick at linuxmafia.com  Sun Nov 11 18:46:15 2018
From: rick at linuxmafia.com (Rick Moen)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 18:46:15 -0800
Subject: [buug] BerkeleyLUG meetup Sunday 2018-11-11
Message-ID: <20181112024615.GG26491@linuxmafia.com>

A posting quoted below has just been retroactively removed from
BerkeleyLUG's Google Group archive by LUG original founder Jack
Deslippe, who was kind enough to so inform me of that action (for which
my genuine thanks).  His cited reason:  'I think it uses unnecessary
language in places when describing the individual'.  

I of course respect Jack's right to make decisions for that Google Group.  
In my view, this account of events today used _absolutely necessary_
language describing the individual and his actions (and in alluding to
similar actions at many prior meetings).  I posted it in public
_specifically_ because repeated attempts to privately fix this problem
failed and instead it worsened -- and specifically to create a public
record.  Thus this re-post:  to un-disappear my comments.  
(Views expressed are my own.)

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Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2018 14:28:34 -0800
From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
To: BerkeleyLUG <berkeleylug at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: AC Power, Wi-Fi but not from venue itself: Re: BerkeleyLUG
	meetup this Sunday 2018-11-11 12Noon STANDARD Time at 85C Bakery

Quoting Michael Paoli (Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu):

> Have had 4 of us here so far ...

But also, now, two fewer, following the latest round of John Regan aka
Giovanni aka whatever-it-is-this-week misconduct right there, today, at the
BerkeleyLUG table.

I've had a near-contemporaneous account of what happened.  Sadly, I had
a conflicting obligation in Milpitas, otherwise I most certainly would
have brought a screeching halt to this nonsense.  Honestly, hasn't John
wrecked enough BerkeleyLUG meetings already, or do y'all intend to keep
just sitting there and only reacting long after the fact, and with little
or no consequence?

What I heard happening was:  John Regan walked in and saw three women
sitting at the table BerkeleyLUG traditionally uses.  He started
hassling the women and telling them they had to move because this is a
reserved table.  Michael Paoli reminded John that no, this is not a
reserved table and never is one, nor are any of the others downstairs.
John ignored Michael, continued to give the women a hard time, and
advised them that he was finding them another table.  Kim Davalos spoke
up to reiterate what Michael P. said, that _no_, this is not a reserved
table.  John told the women that they should ignore Kim because she
arrived late.  After being thus browbeaten, the women finally got up and
moved elsewhere.

After the fact, 85c Bakery management confirmed exactly what Michael and
Kim had said, and were informed of the repeatedly and continually
misbehaving person who evidently needs stronger social control so he 
can no longer run amok at BerkeleyLUG.  Arrangements were made with the
manager in the future for them to step in sooner the next time this
person cannot behave in a civilised fashion to require him to
immediately leave.

Today's incident, like many of the others John has inflicted on
BerkeleyLUG this year, are in my view simply disgraceful and should be
curbed instantly rather than indulged.  Already, the _immediate_ 
result of today's incident was that two regulars, disgusted with 
the failure to enforce obvious standards of acceptable behaviour, walked
out and went elsewhere.

I've privately warned after past incidents that permitting this clown to
run amok at BerkeleyLUG is quite likely to destroy the group if proper
corrective action is not taken.  Today, I'm reiterating that warning
publicly.

You already know what to do.  End this.  Next time, stop sitting on your
tochises, get up, and do it.  Seriously, people, this isn't even
difficult to figure out.  (See also .signature.)

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From Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu  Fri Nov 16 08:24:45 2018
From: Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu (Michael Paoli)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:24:45 -0800
Subject: [buug] BALUG: meeting: Tu 2018-11-20: stories, wrap-up, backup, ...;
	&	other BALUG News
Message-ID: <20181116082445.46115buyd1zflz0g@webmail.rawbw.com>

BALUG: meeting: Tu 2018-11-20: stories, wrap-up, backup, ...; & other  
BALUG News

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items, details further below:
BALUG: meeting: Tu 2018-11-20: stories, wrap-up, backup, ...
giveaways (& wanted), hardware, CDs/DVDs, books/publications, ...
help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue, ...
Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org

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For our 2018-11-20 (3rd Tuesday) BALUG meeting:

Don't have a specific speaker/presentation lined up for this meeting,
however ...

We do have several interesting suggested topics of discussion, so we'll
likely talk about any and/or all of these, and possibly more:

o Leftovers+: last month we had Spooky, Scary, from Hell IT/Linux
   stories, but too many good stories, too little time - covered lots,
   but there are more tales to be told ... and some were saving best for
   last - so I'm sure there's also yet more interesting/juicy tales to
   be told. And, to thematically add a bit to that: Turkey of a Linux/IT
   story - tell us your "turkey" stories -
   software/systems/vendors/companies/characters/... that were quite the
   turkeys.

o Year end wrap-up - no December meeting, so any odds 'n ends to wrap
   up, summarize for the year, plans for next year and directions for
   BALUG, etc. Maybe too some bit about some other Bay Area LUG(s).

o Smoke gets in my eyes (etc.). Disaster recovery and such. (Is your
   LUG backed up? What about ...? What happens when conditions are such
   that >85% of your workforce can't make it in (smoke, their kids
   schools are all shut down, roads are one-way evacuation routes away
   from work site ...)).

Please RSVP if you're planning to attend.  To do so please
e-mail us a note to rsvp at balug.org
indicating meeting date.  If you'll be bringing additional guest(s)
please let us know total number of folks you're RSVPing for.
Also please let us know any special requirements or concerns you may
have (e.g. if you have any particular dietary considerations, so that
we might possibly be able to accommodate you, or if you won't be dining
with us but do wish to otherwise join our meeting).

    6:30pm Tuesday, November 20th, 2018 2018-11-20
    Henry's Hunan Restaurant
    110 Natoma St. (between 2nd & New Montgomery)
    San Francisco, CA 94105-3704
    1-415-546-4999
    http://henryshunan.com/
    Easy Transit/Parking Access: short walk from BART, MUNI, parking
       Trip planning:  http://www.511.org/

Delicious Hunan cuisine and reasonably priced.

Meeting Details...

Cost/Dining:
     The meetings are always free, but dinner is not (unless you are our
     guest speaker, in which case we also treat you to dinner).  For
     Henry's Hunan Restaurant, if folks are agreeable, we'll share and
     dine "family" style, and split up the costs, and typical cost per
     person including tax and tip (but not including beverages beyond
     complementary tea) would be in the $13.00 to $20.00 range, and
     commonly around $15.00 to $17.00.  Cash may be preferred to ease
     splitting up the check.  One can also specifically order the
     dish(es) one needs/prefers (e.g. for dietary considerations) - and
     we also commonly order some dish(es) that may meet various dietary
     considerations) (e.g. vegetarian, non-pork, ...).  Please arrive by
     7:00 P.M., we expect to order entrees at that time, and may order
     appetizer(s) and/or soup(s) anytime after 6:30 P.M.

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giveaways (& wanted), hardware, CDs/DVDs, books/publications, ...

We typically have various giveaway items at BALUG meetings.  We'll
likely have at least the below plus additional items.

CDs/DVDs/ISOs, etc. - have a look here:
https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:cds_and_images_etc
Donations of blank or +-RW media, USB flash, or funding thereof,
also appreciated.  See the above URL for details (and the inventory
(qty.) of what we specifically have "burned" and available on-hand does
also frequently change).

Hardware, etc. wanted/offered!

Got some (computer, etc.) hardware, etc. you're looking to give
away or acquire (or if not free, well below current fair market value),
and locally?  We have a wiki page to list that - so ... see what's
offered, wanted, etc.!
https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:offered_wanted_hardware_etc
(And I'm definitely pushing the Brother printer/scanner/... and the Dell
Dimension 8400 - they'll likely become e-cycle waste if they don't get
adopted in relatively near future)

Books and other titles!
have a peek here:
https://www.wiki.balug.org/wiki/doku.php?id=balug:books_and_publications

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help BALUG! :-) - volunteering, venue ...

You can do useful and cool stuff volunteering to help BALUG.

Quite a variety of opportunities to help BALUG.  Come talk to us at a
meeting and/or drop us a note at: balug-contact at balug.org
These opportunities may include, among other possibilities:
o venue arrangement (e.g. followup on potential leads,
   on-site coordination/preparations)
o assist on speaker coordination/procurement, etc.
o chief/assistant cat herder
o assist on publicity
o Linux Systems Administration (e.g. do/assist/learn, with/under some
     quite experienced and skilled Linux systems administrator(s)).
o webmaster, assistant webmaster, designer, graphic artist
o archivist/history/retrieval/etc.
o and other various/miscellaneous tasks BALUG would like to be doing
     (also feel free to suggest ideas!)

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Twitter - you can also follow BALUG on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/BALUG_org

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Feedback on our publicity/announcements (e.g. contacts or lists where we
should get our information out that we're not presently reaching, or
things we should do differently): publicity-feedback at balug.org