<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Rick Moen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com">rick@linuxmafia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">Quoting Karen Hogoboom (<a href="mailto:khogoboom@gmail.com">khogoboom@gmail.com</a>):<br>
<br>
> Geekfactorwise, "I *am* technical!", but, how can I say this, I was raised<br>
backwards.<br>
<br>
</div>Backwards can get you to useful places almost as well as forwards. ;-><br>
<div class="im"></div></blockquote><div class="im"><br>Thank you. <br><br>Berkeleyfactorwise, I think the term my mother would have used to describe how she set up my life was a proof of the tabula rasa concept, but I forgot what I read about tabula rasa in high school. I was raised entirely with nature, only a tiny bit of nurture.
B. 1964, I should mention.<br>
<br>> What drives me to you is that I finally wiped my XP machine and put FreeBSD<br>
> on it and realized I need to understand the history of X better.<br>
<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Just to be clear, when you say 'understand the history of X better', are<br>
you referring to the X11 graphics system, commonly known as X? It might<br>
be just me, but I'm not 100% sure I understand what you're driving at,<br>
and so just want to make sure.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>You raise a good question. I had seen, I think on Wiki, that some find
the term X Windows offensive. I did mean the computer terminal
windowing system developed at Xerox Parc. However, now that you mention
it, for some reason, I never remember whether XX is what refers to women's chromosomes or mens. So you
may be 100% correct in asking this question.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
<br>
> I have been, by my own bad choices, fate and bad breeding, working in<br>
> the Microsoft world for most of my career. Do I want gnome or kde<br>
> when I don't even want to *emulate* MS on this machine?<br>
<br>
</div>Both the GNOME and KDE 'desktop environments' do have a tendency, liked<br>
by some and disliked by others, of borrowing from the aesthetics of<br>
popular proprietary OSes. However, and I'm sure you anticipated this<br>
answer, what you logically want depends on what's important to you.<br></blockquote><div><br>I decided I wanted to put FreeBSD on my Dell to overwrite Windows XP because I was craving a black screen with white letters.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Please be aware that you can elect to run no 'desktop environment'<br>
whatsoever, instead sticking to the old-school model of just having a<br>
regular X11 window manager (but not running the X session manager and<br>
'desktop' services characteristic of the four most common desktop<br>
environments: GNOME, KDE, XFCE4, LXDE).<br></blockquote><div><br>I did not choose to install the X session manager so far. I do have in my apartment one Linux notebook, one FreeBSD PC-style computer, one Compaq (HP) laptop with whatever my step-sister who works at Microsoft allowed to ship, and one Compaq PC-style computer with Windows 98.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
You can compare the typical appearance of various window managers and<br>
several 'desktop environments' via screenshots and information links at<br>
Matt Chapman's site, <a href="http://xwinman.org/" target="_blank">http://xwinman.org/</a> . Hope that helps!<br>
<br>
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