[buug] Reviving CalLUG

Michael Paoli Michael.Paoli at cal.berkeley.edu
Tue Apr 19 17:44:01 PDT 2011

[trying to not be too redundant :-)][1]

Thanks Paul, et. al.[1]

Sounds like keeping CalLUG alive / reviving it is generally a good idea.
If feasible, keeping the same name may also be good - but having a
"Plan B" for an alternate name, in case the original can't still be used,
sounds like a good idea.  (At least that's short version of my opinion
on the name bits).

As both BUUG and the
Berkeley Linux Users Group http://www.berkeleylug.com/
both meet again within the week (Th and Su respectively),
perhaps it may also be useful to discuss it there, and then
follow-up on list(s) to see if there's consensus (or approximation

In the meantime, also taking any necessary steps to keep CalLUG from
totally disappearing (e.g. the mail list), sounds good.

Anyway, sounds like there are definitely some good possibilities and
opportunities for synergy, etc.

1. see "thread" on:

> From: "Paul Ivanov" <pi at berkeley.edu>
> Subject: [buug] Reviving CalLUG
> Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:13:36 -0700

> Rick Moen, on 2011-04-19 14:00,  wrote:
>> I gather from the announcement that you would write to CalMail Staff
>> <consult at berkeley.edu>, to step up and take over as listadmin.
> done.
>> We can and should talk about what's required to revive CalLUG.  I
>> watched the LUG die, get revived, and die a second time, so I think I
>> know the major pitfalls and can help you avoid them.  I've been thinking
>> of adding a section to the Linux User Group HOWTO[1] about the
>> particular problems of college LUGs.  Here's the short version:
>> 1.  Maintaining accreditation.  In CalLUG's case, that would be through
>> ASUC.  Accredited groups get access to Internet server resources,
>> publicity, use of rooms, right to post flyers, sometimes modest funding,
>> etc.  But you have to file timely paperwork.  Failure to do those
>> filings killed CCSF LUG.
> I'm familiar with these procedures, having helped run student
> clubs at UC Berkeley in the past. There's a threshold of
> needing four people to be Student Signatories, which are
> currently enrolled students who take and pass an online
> orientation quiz about rules and policies related to running a
> club on campus.
> Also, looking at the website for starting a club - it looks like it
> may have to be renamed, due to an apparently *ridiculous* policy:
> ------
>     Organization names must be in compliance with the Berkeley Campus
>     Regulations and the Office of Marketing and Business Outreach
>     policies.
>     The following names and corresponding variations may not be used
>     in your student group name:
>         * UC Berkeley
>         * California
>         * Cal
>         * UC
>         * UCB
>     ?Berkeley? can be used in your student group name only if it is
>     used as a reference to geographic location, such as:
>         * at Berkeley
>         * of Berkeley
> ------
> Though they do mention that groups which started before this
> policy was in place are allowed to keep their name.  Any students
> out there can click on "Become A Signatory" here:
> http://campuslife.berkeley.edu/orgs/manage
> select these two groups:
> * Cal Linux User Group
>     - The name of the group has not yet been approved.
>     - The constitution for the group has not yet been approved.
> * GNU/Linux User Group at Cal
>     - The constitution for the group has not yet been approved.
> Seems like the second name, since it's been approved, might be
> the path of least resistance.
> I haven't been to one of their Sunday meetings, but I think there are
> some UCB students active on the BerkeleyLUG, so maybe I'll shoot
> an email that way (unless they're also on this list, please do
> chime in).
> The hosting resources available to official student organizations
> (clubs) is itself provided by a student org: the Open Computing
> Facillity (OCF). There's a good chance that some OCF members
> would also be interested in reviving CalLUG. Same goes for the
> Computer Science undergraduate and graduate associations.
>> 2.  Continuity, especially over the summer break.  By that, I mean two
>> things:  CalLUG kept having a syndrome where the officers would get too
>> busy in May/June preparing for finals, nobody would have time to make
>> arrangements to ensure out-of-band means of communication in case the
>> CalLUG server went down, and nobody would have time to ensure
>> replacements for officers being graduated.  Some combination of those
>> two problems seems to have killed CalLUG, both times.
> As a grad student, I'm still around during the summers, so that
> should help. But also, as a grad student, I hope to not stay here
> indefinitely, and would only want to invest time in a club that
> remains active beyond my time here, so year-to-year continuity
> would be a particularly important for me.
> best,
> --
> Paul Ivanov
> http://pirsquared.org | GPG/PGP key id: 0x0F3E28F7

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