[buug] Are there any commercial Unix users in this group?

[Nick Buchanan]

Each flavor has a place, I would agree that an HA system running Oracle
or SAP/R3 should be on a commercial system. Edge systems however are
a different animal. This is where Linux and BSD flavors shine. I would
run webservers and routers on these. Does it make sense to run Apache
on a $15,000 420R when a PC running Linux or BSD will out perform it?



AIX - Snake Oil - Ever had a hardware failure on a RS/6000? Not fun.
Smit? For god sake . . . Does this OS even have true CLI ?

HP-UX - Awesone hardware, the OS is horrid.

Solaris - Veritile and robust - As for the harware, HORIBLE reliabillity,
great service from SUN, though $$$. 

Sequent - Bad, just bad. I hate supporting Seq stuff, although the support
is top notch, I love that they will fix just about anything remotely.

DEC/Compaq - Man pages for dummies ! Good luck geeting decent support
from Compaq.   

Pryamid - Who the hell owns this platform now?  


-- 
Nick Buchanan
nbuchanan at onebox.com - email
(415) 430-2161 x5259 - voicemail/fax



---- Bob Read <unixjavabob at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Nick,
>    Here is my "clip'n'cut" guide to the
> unixes...hopefully the other "buug"-ers will add to
> it:
> 
> AIX--for companies with IBM as corporate standard
> Solaris--the ultimate in high price, service,
> toolkits, services, vendors, and compatible apps
> IRIX--graphics, graphics, graphics
> HP-UX--could not quite afford solaris..got this
> instead
> Sequent/SCO--science geeks (faster math?)
> Compaq--(DG-UX)--Bizarro version of HP-UX
> Dec-alpha--another OSF1 clone headed downhill
> NCR--dead, I think.
> 
>    For more information, I remember a book that had
> good diagrams explaining the "evolution of unix", I
> think it was O'Reilly's "essential system
> administration".
> 
>    For my money, the commercial system with the least
> headaches for sysadmins has been solaris for many
> years now.
> 
>    Big Corporations will sometimes invest in an open
> source box for firewalls and routers...but the
> "business back end" is another story.  Big
> Corporations choose commercial unixes for the
> following reasons:
> 
> 1)  required by vendors
> 2)  corporate standard
> 3)  business relationship/partnership agreement (full
> range of services offered with one phone call to the
> sales guy)
> 
>    Rarely are the opinions of the various technocrats
> involved as important as the above 3...remember, its a
> business decision!  And non-Enron business decisions
> tend to be conservative.  As time goes on and the open
> source unixes "prove their stability", we will see
> sales drop for the commericial unixes....but this drop
> will be slow...big companies don't WANT to migrate
> their accounting software from HP-UX to FreeBSD and
> they won't for many years to come...imagine the costs
> to retrain the staff or pay a consultant!  ouch!  Why
> rock the boat if the budget has already been
> allocated?, etc, etc.
> 
> Later,
> Bob
> 
> 
> --- Nick Buchanan <nbuchanan at onebox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Are there any commercial Unix users in this group?
> > I.E. Solaris; HP-UX;
> > AIX? I'm new to the group. It would be great to
> > share experiences with
> > others on these platforms. Particularly Solaris. Any
> > poor implemtatations,
> > great ones? Experiences using choice hardware (
> > E10k, Sunfire E15k, HDS9960,
> > Superdome ) ?     
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Nick Buchanan
> > nbuchanan at onebox.com - email
> > (415) 430-2161 x5259 - voicemail/fax
> > 
> >  
> > 
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